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BirdofPrey
10-10-2007, 04:14 PM
Whoa its a battleship, its a carrier. It's sweet. What isn't to love about this?

Pure Vengeance
10-10-2007, 06:30 PM
This is definatly 1 of the best drawings... I'll probably vote for this sweet design. :)

Trooper_Lozer
10-10-2007, 10:45 PM
very nice!

headstock
10-10-2007, 11:03 PM
thats bloody awesome mate,

kewl design, good drawing, and actually looks protoss too

even that interceptor looks better than what we have now i reckon

im very impressed

well done

Fenix
10-10-2007, 11:22 PM
Sooo....It's a combo of the Tempest, Carrier, Colossus, and toss in a Chain Lightning spell?

But seriously, it's good. The drawing is great, thought the Interceptor looks a bit too much like the Shuttle for my tastes.

Pure Vengeance
10-10-2007, 11:46 PM
Shuttle??? I see a mini corsair. Look at the front.

PS: yah, this is definately the best unit, drawing, and possibly idea I think I see in this vote.
GREAT WORK whoever did this :good:

JBL
10-11-2007, 12:02 AM
1st, the drawing: I really liked how you drew it.. feels very protoss-ish.. and yeah.. the interceptor reminds me the corsair a bit.. it's cool..

but I think the unit has too many abilities.. that are making him almost like a super unit..

in my opinion it would be better if it had no normal attacks.. but only the cannon and the castable interceptors.. that would create an important weakness that would balance him out.

Great job.. I really like your ideas.

Bizarro_Paragon
10-11-2007, 12:44 AM
I like it. I like it alot. It looks cool, and it's one of the only ones submitted that seem like, speaking strictly aesthetically and ignoring balance for now, they could work in-game. I like how you drew the actual ship, and the interceptor, though unremarkable, is still cool.

Constructive criticism now? Hmmm... well, really the only thing I can say is that this will probably end up, in my book, losing points for creativity. I mean, it's almost literally it's namesake: a combination of a Tempest and a Battlecruiser. There's minor differences, yes, such as the Chain Effect on the Yamato Cannon and the interceptors only attacking 4 per unit, but everything important is the same. Though cool, it just doesn't seem very... inspired.

The reason I'm giving this entry actual, serious scrutiny as opposed to just messing around like in the other threads is that I really like the art style here. I feel that if a little more ingenuity had gone into the actual concept of the unit, we would have had a sure winner here.

Overall though, very nice work. We may still have a winner here yet.

ssjfox
10-11-2007, 01:00 AM
I think its pretty cool and could easily be a winner.

Although I must agree with Bizarro in that it is not that orignal. The ablities are just one from the old tempest, the carrier, and the chain lighting spell from warcraft. That said I do enjoy it, I think you put all of these ablities together in a good useable way, and your art work is amazing. Overall its quite good but it does lack the orgianlity factor.

xasterothx
10-11-2007, 02:13 AM
wow that is .....WONDERFUL!!!

i think that design should replace the current carrier and make the current design the tempest...
omg...

Recon
10-11-2007, 03:50 AM
ya i have to agree that its just a combination of alot of other protoss units. the picture is nice but i must disagree that it would be a good unit in the game.
its way to strong.
its a rip off of other units.
and by the sound of it most of those attacks are all its main wich is just to much.
dont mean to shoot you down, its a nice looking unit but its just not what's being looked for in units.

timedragon888
10-11-2007, 05:10 AM
Yeah, this idea is good, but as repeated so many times before, it's based off other units.
It should be more original, like something few people would expect.
But anyway great idea.

-LT-
10-11-2007, 08:03 AM
Very good! It's so Protoss like.

Anubis_theDark
10-11-2007, 11:05 AM
Guys, the unit description is only a thought. This is a unit design competition not unit ideea competition. If it's about design then judge mostly just the design of it, not the abilites or attacks or anything about stats.

ItzaHexGor
10-11-2007, 11:17 AM
But the abilities are like part of the design, aren't they? They've designed the abilities and illustrated them in the unit design. Great drawing of the ship, but I do agree that its abilities are sort of stolen off others. Great drawing though.

Anubis_theDark
10-11-2007, 11:24 AM
Well yes they are indeed part of the design, but then again an ability of any kind is a ripoff the abilites in any of the other games. The cainlighning is not like the one in war3 but as staited is like the prism tank effect, as for the interceptors - well if there is no interceptors people start complaining about missing the old swarm ship, if they get integreted than is a ripoff and is no good.

BnechbReaker
10-11-2007, 02:49 PM
the only protoss entry

DE.50
10-11-2007, 07:58 PM
I like the idea because the carrier really does need something new and different about it, but feel like it should be more like the terran battlecruiser, where you have to choose which ability you want, the interceptors or the "prism" cannon (which I think the protoss should really have).

Anubis_theDark
10-11-2007, 08:33 PM
Yes I also thought of that : choosing between the interceptors or the 'prism' cannon. Good ideea. Maybe even a point defence system as an alternative to the shield - same thing : choose between them - either the shield or the PDL. Could be like 2 options on 4 abillites.

SD-Count
10-11-2007, 09:12 PM
I hate how it's drawn, it just looks so amature, sorry no props there, but out of the ones entered it's among the good.

-LT-
10-11-2007, 10:00 PM
Well he isn't a game designer. :P It's very good.

shadow
10-12-2007, 01:22 PM
i like it, i realy do.
finaly, a carrier with hull mounted weapons. and the design owns.
however, the laser is to like the warprays beam. and the interceptors should not be an ability,
but work as the old interceptors did. and some anti ground weapons would be nice.

good unit, but resembles the warpray to much.
mabye replacing its weapon with something else would be great, good work on the ship :thumbup:
and a :powerup: for the work.

BnechbReaker
10-12-2007, 06:07 PM
um i thought the entries were supposed to remain anonymous.. oh well

Pure Vengeance
10-12-2007, 07:08 PM
SD-Count, I just wanted to pin point the fact that you are blasting multiple topics in which people are showing their work. Constructive critisism is good but... "it's very poorly drawn". C'mon dude, it's freekin sweet lookin and how would that help him make it better?

BirdofPrey
10-12-2007, 07:15 PM
SD-Count, I just wanted to pin point the fact that you are blasting multiple topics in which people are showing their work. Constructive critisism is good but... "it's very poorly drawn". C'mon dude, it's freekin sweet lookin and how would that help him make it better?
First "its freaking sweet" is not a very effective counterargument but I do agree that it is good to elaborate on what he did bad and what can be improved

NateSMZ
10-12-2007, 08:00 PM
pretty well drawn - but I'm not really digging the unit itself - it seems like a super-unit... they already have Motherships - I can't see this getting in the lineup as described

ItzaHexGor
10-12-2007, 10:34 PM
@SD-Count, are there any drawings/images that people will make where you won't just say it's crap and sucks? You almost did the exact same thing in this other topic
http://www.starcraft2forum.org/forums/index.php?topic=3167.0;topicseen

Pure Vengeance
10-12-2007, 10:44 PM
Yeah, that was the other topic I was reading which is why I got kind of upset. Sorry guys for disturbing the peace :P

venado
10-13-2007, 03:58 AM
Very good idea! and very good sketch, very protoss!

DKutrovsky
10-23-2007, 08:50 PM
whats its weakness? How are you supposed to kill a full supply of those?

Anubis_theDark
10-23-2007, 09:18 PM
Well, the tempest shield means less overall shields, that means it would be more vulnerable to a counter air attack. Also the fact that it has a sweeping attack means it also has a longer coldown ( say 2.5 sec ) and can only take a limited amount of targets. So against multiple smaller ships/creatures it would be verry vulnerable, and also multiple BC's can take them out. A good emp stryke, psionic storm or plague ( if it will still exist ) will also damage them verry bad. The interceptors are an abillity not a weapon. They get deployed once every 90 seconds, while the tempest cannon though it can hit 6 targets only one of them recives full damage. On a direct fight with a BC, the Tempest would be superior, but now let me ask you another question - in SC how many ways did you had to counter a large number of carriers or BC's. These are units that require alot of minerals but also makes them worth the effort.