Leaked! Exclusive new units video

[Fenix]

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Ych9 just found an interesting video on You-Tube.

We all know that PC Gaming magazine had an exclusive interview with Blizzard and they were going to release the issue on August. But wait no more. I think this is one of the leaked videos.

http://www.youtube.com/v/30MBljXxg3M

Some interesting things:

Notice, the Carrier has been replaced by the Tempest. Looks like a weaker version because in the last scene, you can see that it dies to 1 Yamato cannon blast. Makes sense now because since Protoss got the Mothership, I think the BattleCruiser should be the second strongest unit. Tempest is looking very sweet. Looks very ProtossLike, and much better than the Blimpy Carriers IMO.
Archon is back too and renamed to Twilight Archon. Last scene, you can see that someone froze the bunkers. I might be an ability of the Archons.
Reaver seems to be making a comeback, as you can see in the last scene.
Photon Cannons can move. Sounds very interesting. And during that scene, you can clearly see that Reapers are acting like Firebats. I think maybe Reapers can switch between dual pistols and flame throwers depending on the situation? Sounds like a very unique concept.

Anyways, enjoy.

Copied from Original Topic by Ych9

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Video page on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30MBljXxg3M)

[SirBaron]

Awesome find. Archons looked kind of weird though, reminded me of WC3.

[Fenix]

I like the Archon's new look. And the Storm Hunters....Did they seem rather overpowered to you?



Anyways, MAD props to Ych9 for this. It's freaking awesome.

[SirBaron]

I like the Archon's new look. And the Storm Hunters....Did they seem rather overpowered to you?

Hehe the Archons are cool, their stance just reminded me of Infernals from WC3.

And yeah, the Hunter thingies seemed crazy.

[Fenix]

Oh....I think I get the Soul Hhnters now....Damage rises exponentially for how many there are. In the clip, it shows just one attacking something, with a small beam, but more join in and the beam just gets massive.

[SirBaron]

Oh....I think I get the Soul Hhnters now....Damage rises exponentially for how many there are. In the clip, it shows just one attacking something, with a small beam, but more join in and the beam just gets massive.

Sounds just like that scene in Ghost Busters where they cross the beams of their "guns".

[Fenix]

Yeah, except much less risk of tearing apart the fabric of the 'verse.

[Gold]

well, that more or less killed about they way we thought the game was gonna be, colussus and reavers, warp rays and tempests, waht does a soulhunter actually do.

are all photons cannons gone now?
are they all warp/phase cannons?
Phase prism into an enemy base, drop a bunch of phase cannons, gg

i noticed the shell type sheilding on the tempest, but then it got taken away, but there still appeared to be a smaller sheild around it, im wondering if the larger sheild is a general special ability.

the reaver moves a bit faster as well

[generalrievous]

interesting soo Terrans can change weapons ill have to watch it again lolz

[Fenix]

This is like huge big news. Like, we now know all Protoss units.

[Ghost]

OMG, I need to watch this.... crappy slow internet.

[paragon]

The phase cannons look different from the photon cannons in the gameplay trailer. The phase cannons have blue in the center below the firing part while the photon cannons have those spinning gold bars.
The Soul Hunters look kind of ridiculous. Like a protoss riding an electronic hover-horse. The hovercraft seems way to small compared to the size of the protoss and he doesn't seem to have legs...
The Tempests look cool but I think they only have 1 shield, its just that they chose to give it a different looking shield. Also, when the one Tempest explodes, there are 12 smaller explosions from it's fighters so this suggests that it can hold at least 12.
Perhaps the Twilight Archon is a mix between Dark and High Templar...

[Ghost]

I juss watched it... gawd im loving every second of it! The tempest looks brilliant.

[zeratul11]

all protoss units?

where are the dark templars? dont tell me that they are all already extinct.

soul hunter reminds me of the silver surfer. i think if carrier was included in starcraft 2 it would look exactly like the tempest but bigger. 8)

where can we download the hq version of this video? thanks

[T-man]

oh WOW!! Just wow, nice vid, thanks for the heads up!
I wish there was a higher quality one though. Anyone can find one?


Probably on the PC Gamer disc or whatever when that issue is released :P

[generalrievous]

might have to buy the mag just fer tha disk xP

[T-man]

That's what I plan on doing, and I never read that mag... Their exclusive interview was an incredibly good marketing decision, as was leaking this low quality copy :D

[Monan]

Extremely good vid, thanks, i cant w8 to get to use the new units. and about the quality, too bad it was that low and small =(
but its awsome anyway

[Associate]

I think every video uploaded on video stream web sites loses its quality after being converted to flv file type, anyway the video looks very interesting, I wish they could release more videos that highlights other races

[gr3ykn1ght]

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccccccccccccce FIND!! YEAH!! man, i'm getting more and more addicted to this game... the tempests look GREAT, much better than what i expected them to be... to heck if their weaker, i thought they were taking away the carriers once and for all...

seems that ever since the protoss homeworl has been overtaken, the high templars have to choice but to lean on the help of the exiled dark templars... think about it, more and more units and turning purple (yellow for the high templar, and purple for the dark templars), like the tempest and the stalker... twilight archons, if it is really the fusion of a light templar and a dark templar, it also goes to show that the high templars and the dark templars are finally co-operating more.

simply love the tempest's new look... now that i recall, in starcraft brood war the dark templars were quite unrepresented other than the dark archon and the templar... so now that aiur has been overtaken, seems that blizzard is bringing more and more of their impact on the protoss race into play... man, this is going to create some good storylines, even if they have trouble balancing the game...

not too sure whether i like the soul hunters though... doesn't really seem practical to me.

can't wait for starcraft 2 to be released.

[hillzagold]

OH SHI- iz dat rly real?

[Zeratul]

OH SHI- iz dat rly real?


Would be a nice fake if it wasn't.
I really don't see how this games going to turn out now.
To me it just looks like genocide waiting to happen.

[GuiMontag]

well atleast now the noobs will stop misqouting blizzard every 5 seconds about there being exactly the same amount of units as in bw

[gr3ykn1ght]

well, it clearly seems there's going to be more, ain't it? actually, i don't really keep up to date with the starcraft 2 releases, as in i don't really wait for press releases... looks like i'll just have to wait for them here... this site's efficient enough. YEAH

[Mike]

Movie is grest, it's yet another hype for us junkies :). However, Soul Hunter looks like a step back from 'Let's not make copies of the same units for all the races'. It's a little-vulture'ish to me..

Anyway, let's hope all races will get new types of aerial units - with so much variety, air battles will get a new taste :)

Oh, and new types of terrain - some look simply amazing :). The one Char-like - it immediately reminded me of SW Episode 3 :D

[MyWifeforauir]

are all photons cannons gone now?
are they all warp/phase cannons?
Phase prism into an enemy base, drop a bunch of phase cannons, gg


well seen in the video the phase cannons warp from the place they were built then move towards the place a bit slowly,
The phasing won't be done instanty.. I wonder what happens to the phase cannons when they are phasing and the pylon/phase prism is destroyed

[MyWifeforauir]

sry for double posting BUT I SAW A REAVER WOOOOOO behind the twilight archons u even see it attack. YES reaver drops are still going to be in the game i guess.... One of my favorite protosss unit is not taken out yay

[Associate]

now the Protoss has yet another handy trick that enables them to disable fixed base defenses like bunkers, the soul hunters appear very powerful for units at their size, in this leaked video you can see a group of soul hunters attacking a Terran base, if you will try to observe it took them around 12 secs to destroy the Terran command center, in the first demo video available at their web site, a group of reapers almost the same size as these soul hunters attacked a Protoss nexus, after attacking the nexus for roughly 13-14 seconds, it doesn’t appear to have been damaged with its shield still intact, unfortunately time runs out for the reapers after the phase prism begins to deploy activating the nearby photon cannons. I was thinking about the balances Blizzard plans to do with SC2.

[Associate]

yep, I certainly hope that’s the case.

about the number of units, I have read an article on wiki that blizzard plans to maintain almost the same number of units like from the previous game, but i guess its too early to speculate about that, we've seen the demo videos and it seems that they’re adding more units than usual. anyway, I think more units will provide players with more ideas to make their own strategies which add up to the game

[10-Neon]

There are never too many units if every unit has it's own unique role, yet is capable of being flexible. It just requires Blizzard to think more outside the box in defining their abilities.

[mc2]

Blizzard doesn't want too many units so that certain unit never gets used in most games. I think having 3 specialised spellcasters for each race is enough.

[Zeratul]

excess is bad in my opinion. Means theres too much too think about in a real game. If there was 100 units in each team then imagine how difficult it would be to decide what to do.. Course they'll never go to that extreme but you get the point.

[Ghost]

It really bugs me not knowing that froze that bunker lol.

[MyWifeforauir]

It really bugs me not knowing that froze that bunker lol.

myabe one of the spells/effects of the twilight archon if it has any or a new unit?
p.s i think my mind is dumbed down after reading some of the comments on youtube

[Ghost]

It really bugs me not knowing that froze that bunker lol.

myabe one of the spells/effects of the twilight archon if it has any or a new unit?
p.s i think my mind is dumbed down after reading some of the comments on youtube


I try not to read the comments, sometimes i stumble across people with other views than mine and I can hurt them cuz they are 600miles away.

[Monan]

It really bugs me not knowing that froze that bunker lol.

myabe one of the spells/effects of the twilight archon if it has any or a new unit?
p.s i think my mind is dumbed down after reading some of the comments on youtube


reading coments just mkes pople more crazy snd confuzed

[paragon]

Blizzard knows what they are doing. There can be more units than in brood wars and still make the game good. I remember them saying in one of the first announcements that there would be more units so I don't know why this is a surprise to anyone. And while you may not use a particular unit very often, I'm sure other people would make use of it. And I'm sure the really good players would. Plus you can mix it up more and that adds even more replay-ability and fun to the mix. It's not really fun doing the same exact build order over and over and over.

[Gold]

how many protoss units were there in starcraft 1?

and hhow many new units ahve we scene?

does the warp cannon count as a unit, a new building, or an upgrade for the photon cannon.

[paragon]

Probe, Zealot, Dragoon, High Templar, Dark Templar, Archon, Dark Archon, Reaver, Observer, Shuttle, Corsair, Scout, Carrier (13)
Probe, Zealot, Immortal, High Templar, Twilight Archon, Reaver, Soul Hunter, Stalker, Phase Prism, Phoenix, Warp Ray, Tempest, Mothership (13)

[Gold]

well, it seems then we have got some unit roles to work out

thank you very much paragon for that info

edit: something dosnt add up, how do you get a twiglight achon ( i assume its a dt and a ht in one)
without a darktemplar in the army, maybe you dont merge them you build them.

[paragon]

I'm betting the Dark Templar is still in the game and the twilight is a combination of DT and HT. However, it would be hard to explain why Archons or Dark Archons are not present if they are indeed not in the game. "We just decided not to merge anymore after all" doesn't really seem plausible. Unless the twilight one is so much better than the other two combined that it would just be dumb to have the old ones.
Also, the Colossus seems to be sorta like the the role the Archon had. Big midrange unit with someone sustained attack. The Colossus has a bigger range and the Archon had splash.

[Gold]

I'm betting the Dark Templar is still in the game and the twilight is a combination of DT and HT. However, it would be hard to explain why Archons or Dark Archons are not present if they are indeed not in the game. "We just decided not to merge anymore after all" doesn't really seem plausible. Unless the twilight one is so much better than the other two combined that it would just be dumb to have the old ones.
Also, the Colossus seems to be sorta like the the role the Archon had. Big midrange unit with someone sustained attack. The Colossus has a bigger range and the Archon had splash.


that sorta idea about colosus and archons was mentioned way back somewhere, well we shall see, maybe blizzard is adding 1 new unit per race, thats the only way i see room for a dark templar unit.
or
the dark energys on shakuras messes with the way two ht merge, and this creates a twilight archon.

[paragon]

But goliaths are better than turrets anyways with their longer range, mobility, and ability to also attack ground. I mean yeah its a lot higher tech and it costs more and takes longer to build, but you can use a few for mobile turrets already if you really want to.

[hillzagold]

the only 2 buildings(other then add-ons) that the terrans cant move, supply depots and turrets, the protoss can now move. movable cannons and insta-pylons FTW

[coalescence]

I'm still missing a flying spellcaster... And don't say mothership because that ones special because of the max build 1 :P

[T-man]

the only 2 buildings(other then add-ons) that the terrans cant move, supply depots and turrets, the protoss can now move. movable cannons and insta-pylons FTW


And bunkers... But they are same category as Turrets and Cannons.

[thekrnjigga]

"High templar: The high templar is back and he'll bring his powerful psionic storm area attack with him. But he's gotten a handy new power he'll be able to create a force field to trap enemy units temporarily or create barriers. Blizzard testing has revealed some extremely effective bottlenecks tactics using him. The ability to say you can't go there anymore will be very powerful."
maybe high templars can freeze enemy bunkers too?

[T-man]

I have rewatched the HD vid a few times to investigate this. It appears that the HT in the video turns to the bunker, but casts the shield thing in front of, but still slightly on, the bunker. This could be exactly what Blizzard meant when they said that he can create barriers. He also stands there, facing the bunker/field, for the entire time the barricade is up, leading me to believe that he is continuously casting, and it may be a drain-energy, instead of cast, ability.

[paragon]

Thats what I was thinking too T-man. Since it said trap enemy troops it may also cover those in the bunker and even static defenses like photon cannons, sunken colonies, etc...

Also, in the PC Gamer article, it said that the Tempest had a strong shield against ground attacks but no defense against air attacks. In the video, about 6-7 shots from a battlecruiser blow it up and one yamato blast blows up the other. They are clearly much weaker than the Carriers were. I'm curious as to what explanation they will give for not giving the Tempest a regular shield on top of the anti-ground attack shield. Also, if those lights on the thing in the top center which appears to be a command deck are windows, the scale of the Tempest is significantly smaller than the Carrier which was f-in huge.

[Darth Vergessenheit]

Did they release the units on the Starcraft 2 web?

[Darth Vergessenheit]

Nevermind they didn't all they added was the Phoenix on the web.

[beBoy]

Perhaps the Twilight Archon is a mix between Dark and High Templar...


hee~ that's exactly what I thought.

I do think Soul Hunters are a little overpowered as it takes down an undamaged cc faster than ever, not to mention it's a range unit (I can understand if a group of DTs kill a cc super fast, but at least it's a melee unit)

[T-man]

Hey, have you noticed that two of the soul hunters have triple thick beam thingies? And the rest have really thin weak ones... why is that??

Edit: you'll have to watch the high res version to see that they shoot out 3 beams that combine to make a really thick one..


According to the literature (I believe it was the scanned PC Gamer page), every infantry unit a Soul Hunter kills increases it's damage, up to three.
Those triple beamers are most like guys who killed a few infantry along the way.

[paragon]

Ah right of course because they are SOUL Hunters so when they kill someone they take their soul and then their gun shoots concentrated soul energy.

[Light]

And during that scene, you can clearly see that Reapers are acting like Firebats. I think maybe Reapers can switch between dual pistols and flame throwers depending on the situation? Sounds like a very unique concept.

are u sure its reapers acting like firebats or firebats acting like firebats?

[ApostleOfGod]

Not too sure if someone already asked, but does the Twilight Archon have splash damage like the original Archon?

[ZeiDjon]

And during that scene, you can clearly see that Reapers are acting like Firebats. I think maybe Reapers can switch between dual pistols and flame throwers depending on the situation? Sounds like a very unique concept.

I dont see any Firebats in that Video, i see the "gunfire" from the two pistols that they have, with this new engine they would have made alot more cool Flamethrower animation.

ZeiDjon

[ZeiDjon]

Well i did, but i think it look abit weak for a flamethrower but i can see there is a difference.. You might be right.

ZeiDjon

PS. And well take a look at this screenshot.. the top bunker.. http://www.starcraft2.com/screenshot.xml?1

[paragon]

PS. And well take a look at this screenshot.. the top bunker.. http://www.starcraft2.com/screenshot.xml?1

What about it?

[ZeiDjon]

Well it can look like a flamethrower coming out of that bunker...

ZeiDjon

[paragon]

It looks like something is exploding and a marine is shooting out of the bunker.

[zeratul11]

maybe hes talking about the upper right bunker. i think great balls of fire is comin out from the bunker. but its too small and narrow, maybe its a marrine gun fire.

anyway change the siege mode of the siege tanks!

[gr3ykn1ght]

to me it looks like some kind of missile... there's some kind of missile trail. i think. and come to think of it, i think terran should get some kind of infantry which shoots stinger missiles or something. just for crowd control, get the drift?

*two marines in a bunker*
1st marine: crap, there's too many zerglings! they're like ants!
2nd marine: damn it. gimme that stinger launcher.
*pulls the trigger*
*foooooom - KABOOOOOOOM*
*lots of zergling remains and blood spewed all over the battlefield*
1st marine: wow. that really owned them.
2nd marine: shaddup and shoot, there's more coming.
*raises stinger launcher*
1st marine: hey, it's MY turn...
*foooooom - KABOOOOOOOM*

[madaaa1]

I wonder if the reaper replaced the old firebats, then?

[paragon]

The flame attack the reapers had was a really weak animation (and a weak flame). Also, if you look closely, you can see the reapers still firing their pistols while the flames are shooting. One of the reapers is sideways and the pistols are not syncing up with the flames and the flames are not coming from the pistols but instead from a little lower.

I think Blizzard should be able to make a much better flamethrower flame. The Firebat in Project Revolution has a much better flame animation.

[oni_angel129]

For me, it really looks like a missile trail. If it's a firebat's or reaper's attack, its kinda weak. The explosion maybe not coming from a Siege Tank. Notice that there are 4 explosions and only 3 Seige Tanks, and no siege tank is facing to the upper bunker we are mentioning.

Well, tha's my observation.

[paragon]

I'm talking about the flame when they were showing off the phase cannon, not the other thing which is clearly part of the explosion.

[CrisisDarkerXIV]

Thanks for the outstanding vid.
But this is will upset even more of my fellow Zerg and Terran players. You noticed how they went for the icy cold look for most of the Protoss units right? (Obvious point here), They're Dark Protoss units, duh. The Twilight Archons look just fine, don't really see what's wrong with them.

Again, I'm a Terran-player, this will really upset the balance. Yeah, a phase prism going around a whole battle field, and all those new cannons need to do is follow. This will, of course, be a huuuge help in securing resource areas, and just ambush enemy forces. What I'm saying here is, this is just crazy how much stuff Protoss is getting. Of course, these aren't the final products, but it can still make one nervous.

I hope Blizzard make Zerg and Terran SUPER crazy.