Graphics

[akdarart]

What do you think about the new graphics engine in SC2? At first glance it seemed very W3'ish. But now that i've watched the demo about 5 times, i'm starting to like it. It really looks like it plays pretty similar to the old SC. What do you think?

[orphean]

Well its definetly not as flashy as say, Crysis. But I don't think it needs to be and I bet most people's computers will be able to play SC2 with no problems at all which is cool.

I think it looks ALOT better than WC3, go and play WC3 for a bit again then watch the gameplay trailer and you'll really see the difference. WC3 looks like crap in comparison.

But yeah definetly feels like Starcraft from what we've seen. :)

[akdarart]

I think it looks ALOT better than WC3, go and play WC3 for a bit again then watch the gameplay trailer and you'll really see the difference. WC3 looks like crap in comparison.


Yah. I only played WC3 once and it was ages ago. I was never really into Warcraft.. more into Diablo and SC.. I am a little dissapointed in the siege tanks more than anything.. they seem a little too cartoony and dont look very threatening.. the BC and zerg units on the other hand look pretty awesome.. not to mention the sick level backgrounds ;)

[orphean]

I was a little put off about how the siege tanks looked too. Very ... plastic looking I guess? The games still in development, maybe it'll be changed before release. The first time around several units were changed during development .

[akdarart]

I was a little put off about how the siege tanks looked too. Very ... plastic looking I guess? The games still in development, maybe it'll be changed before release. The first time around several units were changed during development .


I really hope so.. a few of the Terran buildings looked pretty weak and cartoony as well..

[orphean]

On the other hand the protoss buildings sure looked great. ;D *rubs salt in the Terrans' wounds*

[red_dragoon]

I think it looks very smooth and cg-ish. First impression though was "wtf, this is just starcraft 1!" but later when you view in high res, you get to appreciate the details and modeling.

It looks very nicely done and I think that for an RTS, this looks better than anything out there and there is probably still a lot of work left to go! I just gotta make sure I buy a new comp before I play it, mine is about on it's last breath >:(

[Fenix]

I take it y'all read about how it's on the Havoc engine? :o

[Bumbaloe]

I don't really care much about the engine or whatever, but I think the graphics look pretty good.

[Fenix]

The Havoc engine makes it so debris rolls down ramps. How cool is that?

[Bumbaloe]

The Havoc engine makes it so debris rolls down ramps. How cool is that?


Cool is that, m8's.

[ZerglingRUSH]

It looks amazing, can't see what some ppl are complaining about.

[orphean]

Bah, people complain about everything. Especially on the intertubes. These same people are the ones going to be the ones who will pre-order it at the first available second and still enjoy it. Wouldn't put too much stock in criticism of a game noone has played.

[mc2]

Bah, people complain about everything. Especially on the intertubes. These same people are the ones going to be the ones who will pre-order it at the first available second and still enjoy it. Wouldn't put too much stock in criticism of a game noone has played.


HAHA that is SO true!! i suppose ppl complain just to get attention

[mc2]

Why is ANYONE complaining?


to get attention :D

[10-Neon]

You guys have to realize that the stuff they've been showing is all pre-alpha. That means the internal structures have not been finished, much less the art. Blizzard updates the graphics of its games throughout the development process (which still has alpha and beta left). If you look carefully, the textures they are using are fairly simple. Simple texture updates will immediately change the appearance of things like the siege tank, and I am sure they will go much farther than simple updates. By the time the game is actually released, expect extremely good graphics. But also expect the art to remain stylized, exaggerated. A lot of people read this as "cartoonish" but they do this so that each unit is immediately recognizable.

[mc2]

I agree with orphean that we shouldn't judge the game too much before we actually play it

[High Templar]

well... the FPS world leads in graphic innovation, but for an RTS, SC2 graphic is awesome! even now, at alpha stage :P

[Bumbaloe]

well... the FPS world leads in graphic innovation, but for an RTS, SC2 graphic is awesome! even now, at alpha stage :P


Agreed, it looks good enough to be finished! I watched the high resolution version and WOW! The animation is so smooth. The siege tanks look kinda crap though.


I agree, the siege tanks don't look too good. They look... plastic.

[akdarart]

Well I have been playing Company of Heroes a lot lately.. which is the best RTS I have played since SC1.. Graphics are pretty awesome too.. I wouldn't say they are better or worse than SC2.. just different..

Also.. after watching the high res in-game demo.. yah it looks pretty pimp.. hopefully they will remodel the terran race because the protoss looks pretty amazing.. and what we saw of the Zerg was pretty cool as well..

[10-Neon]

There is a reason the Protoss look better than the Terran and Zerg: they were featuring the Protoss, so they put more effort into the Protoss art for the demos. When they feature the Terran and Zerg races later on, you'll see better art for those races.

[orphean]

I didn't think the zerg looked that bad, or the terrans really. The terrans just looked more obviously 'plastic' than the other races in what they showed.

[Fenix]

We shouldn't really knock on it, because obviously, they're not done yet.Â* This stuff is all demo, and teasers.Â* I'm sure they're gonna polish the devil out of it, knowing Blizz.

[Amajeln]

The graphics are great considering it's a Blizzard game(No offense or anything, just seems that most your the games are cartoony). Warcraft...Starcraft...if they didn't have good gameplay no one would like it. Finally, it looks like the new generation of RTS games, just like C&C3, Supreme Commander, that kinda stuff.

[10-Neon]

I didn't think the zerg looked that bad, or the terrans really. The terrans just looked more obviously 'plastic' than the other races in what they showed.


I suppose you're right, the Zerg were ok, but also remember, they only showed four units, it may well be that the units they didn't present don't look as nice. With the Terrans, they showed 6 units and well as 4 buildings: assuming they spent similar amounts of time on both races, it makes sense that the Terrans, would have a bit less polish than the Zerg.

[Fenix]

Those Nydus Worms are GODS though. The Bane needs a tad of polish, just a spit and rub, and the new 'lings look amazing.

[reject_666_6]

Anybody seen the graphics of that Warcraft 3 mod entitled Project Revolution? They managed to transfer most of the game to the WC3 engine. If you think that SC2 looks warcraftish you'll have to campare it with PR. They look muuuuuch different, therefore Sc2 does not currently look like Warcraft 3, nor like Starcraft. It looks unique. It has lots of influences from both engines, but it's a new game with a new look. You'll see that after it's out, when Diablo 3 or Warcraft 4 come out everybody'll look at their gameplay trailers and say "Gosh, the graphics are really Starcraft 2-ish!".

[yangstuh]

Those Nydus Worms are GODS though. The Bane needs a tad of polish, just a spit and rub, and the new 'lings look amazing.


Lol are you kidding.. they look lame =\ They're like a horde of grasshoppers now with the wings. They need to be more reptilian like instead of buglike.

Zerg were always had a slimey reptilian style to them, I hope they don't alter them and make them too buglike. I will make an exception.. Star Troops grunt bugs were cool, but besides that.. nah. I like the more of a Jerrassic feel.

[mc2]

those locusts are from a spell, not zerg units itself

[Fenix]

those locusts are from a spell, not zerg units itself


My friend, those are most certainly 'lings

Exhibit A
http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/790/790131/starcraft-2-20070519000454013.jpg

[mc2]

gee then the lings are not as good looking as they used to be

[Jecrell]

gee then the lings are not as good looking as they used to be


You mean when they were tiny mishapen triangles with claws?

Exhibit B:
http://www.directory.io/directory/images/Animated-Gifs/Cartoons/starcraft-zergling.gif

[Jecrell]

You mean when they were tiny mishapen triangles with claws?


LOL. Yeah, but now they look like locusts... I thought lings were supposed to be dog-like creatures, not grasshoppers!


I agree with you though, because I actually thought they were locusts at first because they DO look so different than the original Zerglings. Then again, maybe that was the point of why Blizzard made them look that way. After all, the Zerg themselves can kind of be considered a locust swarm at a downright alien level.

Personally though I wish they'd show us what they did with the Ultralisks (a personal wish).

[yangstuh]

gee then the lings are not as good looking as they used to be


You mean when they were tiny mishapen triangles with claws?


LOL. Yeah, but now they look like locusts... I thought lings were supposed to be dog-like creatures, not grasshoppers!


yeah dude, I hate the grasshoper/bug-like look.. I liked the more dog-like raptor styling of the zerglings before.

2 things look really bad in SC2..
-Siege Tanks
-Zerglings

[reject_666_6]

I like how the Zerglings look when in big swarms. It's like a liquid that dissolves everything... And Collosi dry them up :P

[Fenix]

You mean when they were tiny mishapen triangles with claws?


LOL. Yeah, but now they look like locusts... I thought lings were supposed to be dog-like creatures, not grasshoppers!


I agree with you though, because I actually thought they were locusts at first because they DO look so different than the original Zerglings. Then again, maybe that was the point of why Blizzard made them look that way. After all, the Zerg themselves can kind of be considered a locust swarm at a downright alien level.

Personally though I wish they'd show us what they did with the Ultralisks (a personal wish).


Exactly dude. It's a Biblical Plague of Locusts, aka Zerlgin' swarms.

And the Ultras have gotta look pimp.

[yangstuh]

What is going on? Didn't we like the zerglings from before? Didn't we love how they 'burst' when they died? Come on :(

[orphean]

Well Blizz said in the demo that the zerg have kept evolving, maybe the new 'lings have new abilities.

[reject_666_6]

NO NEW ABILITIES. Zerglings are the lowly starting units that work well in great numbers. They burrow and can now mutate to Banelings. That's enough. I think that their wings are good for going down cliffs, that would look like a hell of a chase, but no going up.

[IMPACT]

wanna compare a game with it...compare it with ratchet and clank...seriously it has a resemblance

[darklizard]

hmm, what do u think about the debris after a battle? i like it but it should stay for allot longer than in the demo where it goes in 10 secs

[reject_666_6]

I think that firing at the fallen missiles should set them off or something. That could look interesting...