View Full Version : Nukes VS Mother Ships
Monan
06-14-2007, 05:12 PM
what would happen if a nuk`was painted on a mother ship and the mother ship does the time bomb?
would it blow the mother ship or nothing would happen to thw mothership?
coalescence
06-14-2007, 05:17 PM
Depend if it hits the mothership. As you can see in the movie, rockets are only slowed and not stopped by the timebomb, some still hit the mothership. But blizzard will probably ignore it and just let the nuke go fullspeed cuz its a nuke.
Ghost
06-14-2007, 05:18 PM
Well, it might delay the blast, but when the missle "falls harmlessly to the ground" will it blow or not? Power up for your question, i want to know the truth too lol. :powerup:
Monan
06-14-2007, 05:19 PM
Depend if it hits the mothership. As you can see in the movie, rockets are only slowed and not stopped by the timebomb, some still hit the mothership. But blizzard will probably ignore it and just let the nuke go fullspeed cuz its a nuke.
but actually they also say that the missiles fall to the ground harmless and the nuk is usaly kind of slow, really i dont know.
Ghost
06-14-2007, 05:21 PM
Depend if it hits the mothership. As you can see in the movie, rockets are only slowed and not stopped by the timebomb, some still hit the mothership. But blizzard will probably ignore it and just let the nuke go fullspeed cuz its a nuke.
but actually they also say that the missiles fall to the ground harmless and the nuk is usaly kind of slow, really i dont know.
But the new nukes go pretty fast dont they?
coalescence
06-14-2007, 05:21 PM
Well, it might delay the blast, but when the missle "falls harmlessly to the ground" will it blow or not? Power up for your question, i want to know the truth too lol. :powerup:
Well, I guess it still blows, but maybe you will have more time to evacuate your units, but man you have to do some fast microing.
Monan
06-14-2007, 05:23 PM
But the new nukes go pretty fast dont they?
perhaps, the nuk would actually make a SLLLOOOWWW explotion iside of the time bomb.
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Ghost
06-14-2007, 05:23 PM
Like on invader zim, if anyone watches the show lol.
GuiMontag
06-15-2007, 01:34 PM
lol invader zim rocks!
blizzard will probably make the nuke explode in the feild, and when the nuke goes off it deactivates the timebomb because the ship has no more power, so itl look like a normal nuke explosion.
otherwise we will see some awsome slow motion effects :P
itd be realy awsome if when a nuke goes off right outside the feild there was a ripple effect on the bubble
Ghost
06-15-2007, 03:03 PM
lol invader zim rocks!
blizzard will probably make the nuke explode in the feild, and when the nuke goes off it deactivates the timebomb because the ship has no more power, so itl look like a normal nuke explosion.
otherwise we will see some awsome slow motion effects :P
itd be realy awsome if when a nuke goes off right outside the feild there was a ripple effect on the bubble
Yes to all of the above :P
generalrievous
06-15-2007, 03:33 PM
interesting query was thinking about this myself but id imagine that the time bomb wouldnt stop the explosion
coalescence
06-15-2007, 03:36 PM
Don't think that too, the missile is way to fast :P but I guess the effects of the explosion could be slowed down....
Ghost
06-15-2007, 03:37 PM
I just double checked the mother ships HP and one nuke wont pierce its shield (taking into consideration that the nuke is as powerfull as b4) so I dont see why the nuke cant blast through the time tomb.
coalescence
06-15-2007, 03:39 PM
Because its a time shift, energies like heat shouldn't have any effect on it in that way (for the sake of science ;D)
Ghost
06-15-2007, 03:42 PM
Lolz :P
Anyway nvm, it would pierce the shield but would not come near destroying it.
UchihaItachi0129
06-15-2007, 05:29 PM
lol i like your signature Ghost XD lmao
anyways i think once the nuke touches the timebomb it would either blow up then and there or it would go slower by 1/2 or some other fraction but the mothership would get hit either way because the mothership is the one holding the nuke and if it even moves a little bit it could distort the entire timebomb and BOOM!
also another question about timebomb (similar) what would happen if a mothership were to get locked down when it had it's timebomb up? probably the timebomb goes away because when you lock a arbitor the cloaking feild dies but couldn't you run from the lockdown? XD statsis probably won't be effected by the timebomb though, because it isn't a projectile
Ghost
06-15-2007, 06:52 PM
lol i like your signature Ghost XD lmao
Thx :)
The time bomb is only for projectiles, a nuke comes down via the force of gravity, so the time bomb won't have effects on it. Anyway killing the ghost 1st would be the best defense :P
Meloku
06-16-2007, 08:49 PM
A very interesting question. I don't think it would be overpowered for the mothership to be able to stop nukes. Here's why
Think about it in terms of possibility:
Several things have to happen for this instance to occur
you need a mothership (within very close proximity) of the nuke. You need a mothership period. These things dont grow on trees. Your mothership must have energy. Your mothership must get the time bomb down fast (that nuke really flies in). your mothership must waste energy stoping a nuke that you probably (by this time) could have simply run away from.
Not to mention a ghost rarely nukes alone. Science vessels (if they exist) could reek havoc on your mothership. As could another ghost with lockdown / a few cruisers waiting to yamato.
In conclusion, I believe the mothership will be able to stop nukes, but it will not really be a prefered method of doing it. Then again, sometimes a nuke needs to be stopped at all costs.
But in reality, none of us know, these are only my thoughts, which are as good as yours.
[LightMare]
06-16-2007, 09:42 PM
Depend if it hits the mothership. As you can see in the movie, rockets are only slowed and not stopped by the timebomb, some still hit the mothership. But blizzard will probably ignore it and just let the nuke go fullspeed cuz its a nuke.
hehehehehe, no rockets hit the mothership after the timebomb... it was the missles going through the timebomb barrier making similes of explosions, not actual damage to it. ever though of moving the mothership AFTER the nuke was painted on? it doesn't lock it down... and i doubt the nuke would blow after it hit the groung during a time bomb
GuiMontag
06-17-2007, 03:15 AM
i dont see the mothership being affected by nukes as a problem because remember it can just teleport away!
The efforts and resources needed for a terran player to obtain a nuke, plus the difficulty of launching a nuke should make it powerful enough to go against the mothership (not necessarily destroy it)
FlyingTiger
06-18-2007, 06:35 PM
The time bomb is only for projectiles, a nuke comes down via the force of gravity, so the time bomb won't have effects on it. Anyway killing the ghost 1st would be the best defense :P
eh i think the nuke is a "projectile." I mean in SC1, the nuke is launched like a rocket and u can see smoke coming from it (of course lol) and it went down kinda slow, but it wasn't like slamming down to the ground like in SC2. So I dunno what this will mean for the time bomb. It could have that effect.
haha wouldn't it be cool tho. the nuke stopping then falling to the ground, rolling down the cliff. :D
UchihaItachi0129
06-18-2007, 07:30 PM
The time bomb is only for projectiles, a nuke comes down via the force of gravity, so the time bomb won't have effects on it. Anyway killing the ghost 1st would be the best defense :P
eh i think the nuke is a "projectile." I mean in SC1, the nuke is launched like a rocket and u can see smoke coming from it (of course lol) and it went down kinda slow, but it wasn't like slamming down to the ground like in SC2. So I dunno what this will mean for the time bomb. It could have that effect.
haha wouldn't it be cool tho. the nuke stopping then falling to the ground, rolling down the cliff. :D
lol lmao if i saw a nuke rolling down a cliff i'd still run away from it XD
wolfblood
06-18-2007, 08:18 PM
Nukes usually dont slam the ground, they explodes in the air. :D
Btw, mc2, nukes arnt that hard 2 obtain :P
Meloku
06-18-2007, 09:11 PM
Nukes usually dont slam the ground, they explodes in the air. :D
Btw, mc2, nukes arnt that hard 2 obtain :P
Then again, starcraft nukes arent real nukes. After the destruction of korhal, terrans only use tactical nuclear missiles (against all logic.)
Arachanox
06-18-2007, 09:12 PM
A nuke is basically a bigger bullet, except with a radioactive warhead instead of a conventional one. The Time Bomb should slow it down, and when the TB wears off, it should fall to the ground and explode. Velocity has nothing to do with how nuclear devices work. If you drop a nuke from 1 inch off the ground, and the trigger releases (if it was already primed), it will do just as much damage.
Monan
06-18-2007, 09:46 PM
A nuke is basically a bigger bullet, except with a radioactive warhead instead of a conventional one. The Time Bomb should slow it down, and when the TB wears off, it should fall to the ground and explode. Velocity has nothing to do with how nuclear devices work. If you drop a nuke from 1 inch off the ground, and the trigger releases (if it was already primed), it will do just as much damage.
thnx for explaining.
so if i use the time bomb and then a arbitrer to bring the mother ship back to my base, the nuk will fall in this other area exploding without my mothership there.
Itsmyship
06-18-2007, 09:57 PM
Well, I'm not sure if the time bomb moves with the ship or it stay stationary, or if the mothership can't move at all, if it CAN move though, you may be able to just get the hell out and then when the time bomb wears out, the nuke just goes boom and hopefully knock out your enemy's units in the process ;)
Monan
06-19-2007, 02:27 AM
Well, I'm not sure if the time bomb moves with the ship or it stay stationary, or if the mothership can't move at all, if it CAN move though, you may be able to just get the hell out and then when the time bomb wears out, the nuke just goes boom and hopefully knock out your enemy's units in the process ;)
if the nuk is like in starcraft 1, it will stay in the spot and not in the ship.
Ghost
06-19-2007, 03:58 AM
No he means if the TIME BOMB moves with the ship, not if the nuke follows you around.
zeratul11
06-23-2007, 12:47 AM
now how many nukes is needed to bring down the mothership? i think 3 is enough.
ENTAROGUNTER
06-23-2007, 04:48 PM
The time bomb is only for projectiles, a nuke comes down via the force of gravity, so the time bomb won't have effects on it. Anyway killing the ghost 1st would be the best defense :P
eh i think the nuke is a "projectile." I mean in SC1, the nuke is launched like a rocket and u can see smoke coming from it (of course lol) and it went down kinda slow, but it wasn't like slamming down to the ground like in SC2. So I dunno what this will mean for the time bomb. It could have that effect.
haha wouldn't it be cool tho. the nuke stopping then falling to the ground, rolling down the cliff. :D
lol lmao if i saw a nuke rolling down a cliff i'd still run away from it XD
If I saw a nuke rolling down a cliff, I'd send an SCV to go pick it up and put it back in the silo, ready for round 2! haha.
SirBaron
06-23-2007, 06:36 PM
Aren't like 95% of the nukes airburst ones?
paragon
06-23-2007, 08:44 PM
Aren't like 95% of the nukes airburst ones?
Yeah. Actually, I don't think theres any that actually hit the ground and explode. Doesn't cause as much damage.
marinepower
07-15-2007, 03:13 PM
Well, the nuke can destroy any unit or building in 2 hits, so all you have to do is lock the MS down maybe 3 times to disable it completely, then just nuke away. If you are unable to lock it down, then the MS can either use the timebomb, the black hole, or just run away from the nuke.
ZiiDriX
07-15-2007, 11:45 PM
now how many nukes is needed to bring down the mothership? i think 3 is enough.
I think 2 is enough :P
Trooper_Lozer
07-16-2007, 01:09 AM
What if when you used the time thing the nuke stopped then after it fell to the ground and blew up into a super nuke. ;D. THEN EVERYONE WOULD BE SCREWED.
-Trooper
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