Zerg-Protoss Hybrids

[reject_666_6]

I think that they will be a plot point, and some tough-ass NPCs, but not as a playable race. That's definitely out.

[10-Neon]

We've already covered this. From a previous post:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6171172.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;1
From the article: "The panel also confirmed that the sequel will have only the three factions of the Protoss, Terrans, and Zerg; there will be no fourth faction."

I also saw the video of the discussion, and they said that while the Hybrids and Xel'Naga might play a role in the game, they will not be player-controllable races.

[starcraft2iscoming]

Then they might be like warcraft 3's Naga! An unplayable race you must deafeat!



It would be COOL!!

[l2k]

Unplayable in normal game, but what if it is playable in custom map setting game ?? ;D

[coalescence]

i doubt it...


Why? In wcIII you could play with naga and burning legion too in some custom games. You could even play with gnolls if you ****ing wanted. Its just some creativity with the map editor you will need.

[starcraft2iscoming]

No it will be possible, the will be a world editer, the hybrids will make an apperance(THEY MUST), and world editer lets you place any unit in the game onto a home-made map. ;)

[reject_666_6]

Of course, modders + map editor + art tools = Hybrid playable race, just like the Naga. Back when the Frozen Throne was released I started to scour the map databases for a good Naga map. I didn't find any good ones so I started to make one myself. I still have it stored on my very old comp's hard drive. Oh, boy! Oh, boy! Hybrids in maps!

I just hope that this time Blizzard will include an option in the editor to actually add a playable race in the race selection screen instead of making you have to replace one completely. Any modders among us interested?

[hillzagold]

i bet that there will be a hybrid unit, because the zerg probably assimilated the dragoons on auir. how kickass would it be to have a hydralisk/dragoon?

[mc2]

Hybrids will not be a playable race.
but if we get a modders + map editor + art tools and get the Hybrids as playable, imagine how unbalanced the game would be??

[reject_666_6]

Well preferably they'll do at least SOME balancing work done for it. If they're smart enough to make their own editor, then a little hp/shield/damage/cost tweaking shouldn't o too hard.

[MasterTerran]

The protoss/zerg known as hybrid,would probably be played a mission or two,like in war3TFT( like Ilidan and his naga),but there is a very low chance for that...30%,or even lower,as for the mystical Xel'Naga,they will not be playeble at all,or at least i think...

[coalescence]

The following pictuere has many zerg features but also a bit of protoss like features, look at this eyes.
But the most important thing, I see a shield. People I think the hybrid has a face!

From the insiders interview;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/noxious17/hybrid.jpg

[reject_666_6]

It actually resembles a Naga from Wc3! :gossip:
Just give it a Trident and a plan to take over the world and it's all set!

Honestly, we haven't seen all Zerg units yet, so we can't really guess for sure about what it is. It might be just a Hunter Killer... ???

[starcraft2iscoming]

Yea, thats not a hybrid. I dont see any protoss features on it. And that "sheild" you say, is part of that blast that hit the poor thing :'( But that is still a kick ass picture! :thumbup:

[mc2]

It's definitely a hydralisk, but who's attacking it? reaper? collosus?

[starcraft2iscoming]

If i didnt hear the way dragoons have changed i'd say it was a dragoon

[reject_666_6]

Dragoon? You must be sarcastic, so I'll let it slip this time. ;)

[TheDarkTemplar]

Ok I was reading up on the history of all the races and the likes, and the Zerg take into their ranks the strongest races to make new units or whatever, and they just annihilate weak races. So my question is, because they infested the Dragoon place on Aiur, will there be a Dragoon-type Zerg unit?

Also, dunno if that's a shield or just the blast from the attack, but still, cool picture!

[Gold]

maybe, i would prefer infested reavers, big slug like things that can roll into a shell, those would be cool.

[reject_666_6]

How can it be a Dragoon? The Dragoon is just a mechanical exoskeleton for wounded Protoss soldiers. You can't absorb something that isn't really alive. That'd be like the Zerg absorbing a Marine's gun and henceforth being able to produce Gunlings...

[coalescence]

How can it be a Dragoon? The Dragoon is just a mechanical exoskeleton for wounded Protoss soldiers. You can't absorb something that isn't really alive. That'd be like the Zerg absorbing a Marine's gun and henceforth being able to produce Gunlings...


Well, the stupid thing in some artwork is that you see infested terrans with spacesuits (suits are infested too) but maybe its the difference between a terran that has been infested and a infested terran who was bred from a larvea.

[Gold]

THey can infest comand centers.
why not smaller dragoon shells
overlords are big bags of air, they must be able to jsut squash them in.

[reject_666_6]

Yeah, that's probably it. I doubt that the Zerg could operate the Dragoon factory, even though they might have infested a few unlucky Goons that may fight...

[Whatsifsowhatsit]

Hmmm... how do you guys get the idea for Hybrids in the first place though?

[coalescence]

Hmmm... how do you guys get the idea for Hybrids in the first place though?


Secret Protoss mission in the zeg campaign.

[Whatsifsowhatsit]

Hmmm... how do you guys get the idea for Hybrids in the first place though?


Secret Protoss mission in the zeg campaign.


Oohh... where you're supposed to win the level within 15 minutes or something..?

[coalescence]

Oohh... where you're supposed to win the level within 15 minutes or something..?


20 I think, but yep :)

[reject_666_6]

It was 25. ;)

[starcraft2iscoming]

Point is, there is a seceret mission that intoduces hybrids into Starcraft.

[coalescence]

Point is, there is a seceret mission that intoduces hybrids into Starcraft.


Like I said before on this page :P

[Darth Vergessenheit]

It was 25. ;)


I forgot does hacks work for that level because I remember playing and with hacks and I seemed to not get the secret level.

[coalescence]

I forgot does hacks work for that level because I remember playing and with hacks and I seemed to not get the secret level.


Do you mean Cheats? Because they work.

[Zeratul]

Hmm most definetely, being the noob i was 5-6 years ago I had to cheat to win those harder levels.
Course I found the bonus mission as a result ;D

[mc2]

Today I played the Protoss campaign in the original starcraft. And I was surprised that I forgot about something important/significant in the campaign!!!

OK we are all too used to the concept that the Dark Templar was a unit brought into the game in Brood War. While I was playing the Protoss campaign in the original, I re-discovered the fact that the Dark Templar was a semi-playable unit. I totally forgot about this because I haven't played the original storyline for ages. I think it is the 7th and the 8th mission in the campaign that you were given a couple of Dark Templars and you can use them just like in BW. But you cannot create any in a gateway.

So base on this, I came up with a hypothesis that the hybrid could be a semi-playable race in SC2. Like there's no hybrid race to play with in custom games. But in the campaigns, we might be able to have a few playable hybrids here and there to play with.

[Zerat]

In the Sc2 FAQ on starcraft2.com you can find
" In StarCraft II, players will see the return of the Protoss, Terran, and Zerg races. Our goal is to ensure that all the factions in the game play even more distinctly from one another than in the original StarCraft ..."
So if the hybrid will be in-game it will only be support or some special unit type, but I remeber reading somewhere that the hybrid will not make a "comeback" because Blizzard wants to focus only on the primary 3 races

[Ghost]

I hope they dont bring in Hybrids. I like the 3 prime races but I sure hgope that they give as a demo of their power or give us more info in them.

[Meloku]

If anyone here has played warcraft III: the frozen throne, the hybrids might function very similarly to the naga. They were very basic and had only a few structures. There were, however, still very cool.

Perhaps this is the intent for the race, or maybee we will see some hybrids running around as envinronmental hazards in every level. Who knows!

[wuffle]

I think the hybrids could b a zerg unit. Instead of infesting a command center... infest a gateway! lol. I will laugh if this turns out to be true.

[GuiMontag]

i dont think they will be a playable race in the campain, but im sure we will play against them lol. hopefully blizzard will put loads of extra stuff in the map editor so we can play with them in custom maps :)

[[LightMare]]

I hope they dont bring in Hybrids. I like the 3 prime races but I sure hgope that they give as a demo of their power or give us more info in them.

3 is a prime number :)

[mc2]

GuiMontag, what I meant is that certain hybrid units will be featured alongside certain missions in the campaign. Just like the Dark Templar in the original Protoss campaign. In certain missions in the SC2 campaigns, we are given 5-6 hybrid units that we can use and are expendable. But apart from that they'll be non playable

[munster69]

I doubt that there even going to bring them into the story right now, cause Blizz said they wanna focus on the 3 current races. And Duran said to Zeratul that when they awake they would set the universe aflame or w/e. So I think there gonna save them for a huge apocalyptic storyline later on where all hell breaks loose. But that's just my opinion, i hope i'm wrong, been wanting to see what there made of since i first played Dark Origins

[GuiMontag]

well if the hybrids were playable at all id say that it would be in the terran campain, theres no way that protoss or zerg will allow the abominations to live. Mayb a terran force will take controll of durans experiments and then use the hybrids against the other races :P
but i still think we will only be able to kill them, mayb we can play a campain as durans servent or sumfin ;D

[Hellbringer]

They might not be added initially, but they could be added in a possible expansion to the game. I mean the Dark Templars were added in Brood Wars, so it's not unlikely that they would be added as a playable race later on. Also the Hybrids would probably act in a similar role to that of the Aliens in the playable games - they require Zerg/Protoss hosts and they hatch and assimilate the genes of both species, then go out on a hunt and create havoc. It would not surprise me if the Hybrids happened to be the equivalent of a hero with mass destructive capabilities and lots of health, and either be a singular unit or a swarm that requires intense tactical handling in order to defeat them.

[Frost]

I hope they play a really really big role in the end of the game, leading up to another expansion. Of course Blizzard better do a damn good job with SC2 itself to make sure i buy the expansion, but so far i haven't been let down :thumbup:

[Proxy-serva]

maybe u can built hybrids.... maybe you can built a terran "queen"[like zerg,who can make infested terrans, the terraner can make hybrids..

[TidalSpiral]

I could see them being a Zerg unit, because it would have to represent the psionic influence, sophisticated form and thought of the Protoss but the ferocious, progressive and non-negotiating spirit of the Zerg. In terms of mind they have to be closer to the Zerg. I bet that a Protoss building can be infested.

Also to the person who said it would be Terran cause the other races would execute hybrids... the Protoss yes, but the Zerg? The original Overmind was trying to make hybrids since the beginning and they love absorbing new genes.

[Ych9]

If the Hybrids are playable in the singleplayer, it would most likely be like how the Naga worked in WC3. They will have their own set of units and buildings. If that is the case, Blizzard might save them for the expansion. They want to see an initial reaction for the Hybrids before they jump off the boat to decide whether the Hybrids can be added in the expansion. Of course, if they were added to the expansion, they would need some balancing. But since the expansion is still a long way, maybe Blizzard is planning to add them while they try to balance the Hybrids once SC2 is released. They would have plenty of time to make the Hybrids more distinctive compared to the other 3 races.

Just my 2 cents.

[didd293]

maybe as part of the expansion, Duran the a**hole decides to fire up his army of hybrids and there'll be maps and levels where they'll be guarding some chokepoints or expansions, much like wc3. If that's the case, f*** them, i don't a "Warcraft in space"

[ShoGun]

I think the hybrids will be a very broad race consisting of 2-3 units, and 2-3 buildings. Most hybrids would be brutally large (about the size of an archon), with powerful psychic attacks, and would be spawned in a similar fashion as the zerg. So in a sense, they would have units as powerful as the protoss, but with the zerg's massing capabilities. Although overpowered for sure, It would fit their style well. I wouldn't have them any other way then overpowered, it will only make it more fun and reward able to conquer them in the campaigns . . . if that is they are even present in the game.

[Deadpool]

I'm just curious what you all think bout the hybrids heres a picture i found if u guys havnt seen this http://limitedgaming.com/files/18/statisbig.jpg and for those of u who know nothing about the hybrids in a secret mission in Brood wars zeratul found a protoss/zerg hybrid and then duran explanined that even if zeratul did destoy the hybrid it wouldnt matter beacause he alrdy planted tons of hybrids on tons of different worlds so zeratul destroyed that hybrid then left watever world he was on at that time for info on duran look it up on some other post lol and im not sure wat that creature is near the hybrid in the tank but to me it looks like a succesful hybrid guarding the others looks like he has a spear with the energy from the protoss zealots little dagger sword things at the end of the spear

[Shadowdragon]

Looks like a wasp ape. All in all, it's about as ugly as the protoss and zerg babies should be. I guess that's how the protoss men know their wife has been cheating on him. Maybe that's how Duran got the hybrids in the first place...

[TidalSpiral]

Thought it might be good to have a collective for how people envision the Zerg / Protoss mix.

For myself I imagine them hatching out of diamond eggs, really shiny with energy glowing inside. Then when born they are like an all black animal with sweeping traits instead of being all sharp and spiked. Like a smooth hydralisk. Then energy swirling about it's body as it taps into the psionic abilities (preferably dark blue).

[kiksu]

Ultralisk's Kaiser Blades charged with Psi.
hmm... a Protoss + Hydralisk face with a mouth that doesn't open when it speaks, since it can only communicate telepatically.

Has Kerrigan-like wings, again charged with Psi.

[TidalSpiral]

And then I could also see them running fast but silently, except for like a light crackle because of all the energy distortion their minds cause. Silent psi destroyers that regenerate... and what if they could instant kill nearby Ghosts automatically, because they have psi ability? Like they just burn the Ghost's mind away and they fall dead. Now I'm getting all excited like a bachelor at a strip club.

[Deadpool]

heres a picture i found that i thought was pretty cool just wanted to show u guys it http://starcraftweb.wz.cz/new%20version/starcraft2/Starcraft%202%20Logo.jpg

[MarineCorp]

i heard that there will another race called kerrigan i heard about this in ign.com but they also say that blizzard is still not sure however i cant find the link :(

[Wlck742]

Umm, no. There definitely will not be a race called Kerrigan.

[Star-Crap]

lol a race of kerrigans.

might as well call them Amazons

[i2new@aol.com]

http://limitedgaming.com/files/18/statisbig.jpg

This pick is kinda strange but Look at the unit next to the Cell.......What is that. Could it be the basic foot trooper unit for Hybrids......

[ShoGun]

I'm just curious what you all think bout the hybrids heres a picture i found if u guys havnt seen this http://limitedgaming.com/files/18/statisbig.jpg


Thank you for the link Deadpool, it looks to me like the creature in the cell could be our first glimpse of what the hybrids will look like. To my disappointment, I was starting to think that the hybrids would not be involved in the campaigns, since the word is that Blizzard wants to focus entirely on the 3 original factions, even in the story plot, but this picture (which I’ve seen in the cinematic trailer as well) may be proof that blizzard wants to involve the hybrids somehow in the campaign missions . . . how exciting.


http://limitedgaming.com/files/18/statisbig.jpg

This pick is kinda strange but Look at the unit next to the Cell.......What is that. Could it be the basic foot trooper unit for Hybrids......


I don't think the creature guarding the cell is a hybrid. If you look at the creature in the cell then compare it to the one guarding it, you can see that they are very different. The one in the cell is much larger, and has more zerg features, where as the guard looks more like a protoss. Why a protoss is guarding a hybrid, maybe it is mind controlled, it just looks much like a protoss to me. Could even be a Xel’Naga for all we know.

[Star-Crap]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RyW7LfKlyrI

zerg hybid in this video!!!!

[Warsaw]

what would be so great from hybrids anyway? ok so youve got a psionic hydra with possibly shields... unless it can psi storm or something why couldnt 6 or so lings take it out?

[ShoGun]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RyW7LfKlyrI

zerg hybid in this video!!!!



Thats not StarCraft 2 though, its a mod to some other game.

[Star-Crap]

[quote=Star-Crap ]
Thats not StarCraft 2 though, its a mod to some other game.



lol i know i just wanted to waste your time

[GrahamTastic]

We've already covered this.
I also saw the video of the discussion, and they said that while the Hybrids and Xel'Naga might play a role in the game, they will not be player-controllable races.

We know. He said "that's definitely out." We are just debating about how they will be included. (Trust me, they will make an appearance somehow).

[Sagathox]

We've already covered this.
I also saw the video of the discussion, and they said that while the Hybrids and Xel'Naga might play a role in the game, they will not be player-controllable races.

We know. He said "that's definitely out." We are just debating about how they will be included. (Trust me, they will make an appearance somehow).


Sorry to enter your conversation, just to remind you two, that a few weeks before the anouncement of starcraft 2, blizzard strongly dennied the existence of such proyect, so dont be so foolish as to believe everything they say, it's just marketing my friends, anything could happen, and i sure hope they bring them as playable races

[GuiMontag]

they actually gave alot of hints back in 2006

[ShoGun]

What as it they said GuiMontag?

[GuiMontag]

at one of the games conventions last year a blizz rep said something about revisiting starcraft, there were major headlines on most gamesites.

also in 2005, Blizzard representatives started posting various questions in the official StarCraft Discussions forums at Battle.net about "What do you want in a future StarCraft RTS sequel?". not sure how much more hinting people needed lol.