View Full Version : colossus beam red or blue?
bazzwano
06-17-2007, 01:04 AM
The red beam of the colossus doesn't seem fitting to protoss psi technology, I feel it should be a blue beam like every other attack in SC1... who agrees
Oiyzas
06-17-2007, 01:29 AM
I kinda do. Toss are moving away from all-blue attacks though- seen the Soul Hunters?
Blue fits more with Toss, but those red beams just look t3h pwn. Like sentinel beams from Halo, except good.
Meloku
06-17-2007, 01:32 AM
I dont know, blizzard seems to do a good job with changing things. To the fans it always seems like it will be too much, but once the game is out, you wonder how it would ever be without it.
[LightMare]
06-17-2007, 01:43 AM
I dont know, blizzard seems to do a good job with changing things. To the fans it always seems like it will be too much, but once the game is out, you wonder how it would ever be without it.
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LoserInLosing
06-17-2007, 01:46 AM
Yea shuld be blues, but we'll wait and see
[LightMare]
06-17-2007, 01:48 AM
i formed an opinion. take a look at dark archon shall we? it's red. the colossus itself is blue, but only the beam is red. i mean come on! we can live with that. it adds diversity
zeratul11
06-17-2007, 01:52 AM
yes. blue is hotter than red.
Oiyzas
06-17-2007, 01:56 AM
But red looks kooler than blue. Blue lazors smoking zerglings= cool. Red lazors smoking zerglings= awesome.
[LightMare]
06-17-2007, 02:34 AM
i concur! the lasers are not fire. so blue is INFACT not hotter then red. lasers have the same heat no matter the color.
Blue has a higher frequency than red so it should be just slightly more destructive than red (scientifically speaking). Blue looks better, I mean I'm not a big fan of the dragoons in SC1 but the blue phase disruptor surely looks better than, say, defiler's plague.
PrivateJoker
06-17-2007, 04:12 AM
The red beam of the colossus doesn't seem fitting to protoss psi technology, I feel it should be a blue beam like every other attack in SC1... who agrees
I wouldn't be surprised if different color sets create different beam colors, respective to each particular color set.
bazzwano
06-17-2007, 06:03 AM
yes iv seen the soul reaper, and i dont like its attack much eather, im not saying that the red looks bad, but i remember whatching the vid when i saw the colossus it took me a while to adjust to the new unit.. then i saw the red beam (it looks good) and i couldnt help but think .." RED thats different" it didnt stand out as a protoss attack... i did a search to see what a blue laser would look like. its funny because even a real like blue laser makes me think of protoss. this is the kind of feel you get witch protoss, and i feel that red is not fitting
http://www.cnilaser.com/picture/blue.JPG
amagen thats the colossus beam, i think it would be better suited
wuffle
06-17-2007, 06:17 AM
Really. I like how they are making the protoss more diverse and more dark.
Well, it's be kinda bland having everything the same color. I like red!
Most structures in SC1 are bland and have the same colour. All protoss structures are sort of yellowish with blue crystals here and there. Zerg structures are mostly red-brown colour and sometimes a bit of green. All Terran structures are silverish. Now that's bland isn't it? ;)
A blue ray is obviously a lot more suited to the Protoss than a red ray. The red ray has too much resembles to the yamato gun. The 3 races need to be distincted from one another.
Inside Sin
06-17-2007, 08:47 AM
Red seems fine, if it was blue it would really wierd because the armour mixing in with the beam? Guys you got to realise its going to be protoss vs protoss aswell, so it might look bad :(
bazzwano
06-17-2007, 10:07 AM
Red seems fine, if it was blue it would really wierd because the armour mixing in with the beam? Guys you got to realise its going to be protoss vs protoss aswell, so it might look bad :(
whats your point??? how is my opinion any diferent to the psi blades on the zealot, myb we should make their blades red to be differnt..
As for bland... maybe the standerd yellow should be greem, that would be diffrent, but not appropriate.. protoss are blue evergy weapons because they are powerd by the blue psi crystal
Lord David
06-17-2007, 05:39 PM
Well the Star Trek universe used a multitude of varying colors for their Phaser effects? Reddish-orrange was the norm, but then you got blue beams from the ships of TOS, the occasional reddish-orange which is more common in the latter series, then you get green for some odd reason coming out of TOS hand held Phasers and ship stun.
Is this even relevant? Maybe not, but blue seems to be the logical choice for beam/weapons fire color for the Protoss, what are they gonna do next, hmm? Change the beam color to match the player's color so that the units are more easily identifiable? :P
ZeiDjon
06-17-2007, 05:53 PM
hehe they could make the beam the same color as your units, so if your color is red the laser would be red, and so forth.
ZeiDjon
Light
06-17-2007, 06:19 PM
who cares if you're colourblind...
capthavic
06-17-2007, 11:10 PM
I dont know, blizzard seems to do a good job with changing things. To the fans it always seems like it will be too much, but once the game is out, you wonder how it would ever be without it.
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Double quote for emphasis :P
I was to engrossed with the action to care about little stuff like that
bazzwano
06-19-2007, 01:02 AM
hehe they could make the beam the same color as your units, so if your color is red the laser would be red, and so forth.
ZeiDjon
Yes and mayb colour code they protoss yellow too then we wont be able to recodnize protoss at all.... no not realy.
Inside Sin
06-19-2007, 08:16 AM
Well, its easy to say...
When you say 'Laser' anytime, automatically people think of red lazers, such as lazer lights ..etc.
So its more appropriate for the description. XD
ZiiDriX
06-20-2007, 07:05 PM
The red beam of the colossus doesn't seem fitting to protoss psi technology, I feel it should be a blue beam like every other attack in SC1... who agrees
I would say its orange. ;)
Nikzad
06-20-2007, 09:05 PM
just so everyone knows, it's "Laser" with an "S," since it is an acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation
oh and I don't really care what color the laser is, as long as it kills ;D
MrFrancko
06-20-2007, 09:45 PM
Can't say I mind the red at all... A blue laser might be too much. Maybe have one laser be blue and the other be red.
Light
06-20-2007, 09:46 PM
then it will look like a freaking disco
SuperMarioPsycho
06-20-2007, 10:58 PM
then it will look like a freaking disco
do you like disco dance me too? i like to go to disco with friends, sometimes i dance with new people. i like dancin with girls but sometimes these strong guys make me dance with them, i get scared so i just dance, but i just pretend like im playing Starcraft SO ITS OK!
;) :powerup:
Major Willy
06-20-2007, 11:00 PM
The current Colossi beams remind me of the Terran which had the red ones first.
But I admit they look nice in contrast with the golden blue Colossal.
MrFrancko
06-21-2007, 02:11 AM
At least the laser isn't green. I don't think i'd like green.
Major Willy
06-21-2007, 06:49 AM
No green wouldn't be a good choice. That's more for Zerg with their various acids and sludges.
But I'm wondering now if the Dark Templar will correctly have their green blades unlike the white ones in Starcraft Brood War.
zeratul11
06-21-2007, 09:46 AM
wow i never thought the dark templars had laser blades cause it seems like they used swords. lol
MrFrancko
06-21-2007, 06:17 PM
Yeah, they had laser blades; Really pimp ones at that. I don't even think they need to change the sound that they made when they were slicing a group apart. It may have been one of my favorite sounds.
Nikzad
06-21-2007, 06:25 PM
they don't need to, and they better not! omg it was so satisfying
*SLICE*
*zergling yelp, explosion of blood*
zeratul11
06-21-2007, 08:20 PM
now i know. i sense a dark templar and jedi battle going on. lol
i hope dark templars will have cool attack animations in starcraft 2. i hope they can jump up a cliff and have a cool passive skill like slicing their enemies in a blink of an eye even against bigger unit like the Goliath well with long cooldown ofcourse.
Ghost
06-21-2007, 08:22 PM
The red beam of the colossus doesn't seem fitting to protoss psi technology, I feel it should be a blue beam like every other attack in SC1... who agrees
w/e they OWN
Gah345
08-18-2007, 03:44 PM
does anyone think that the colossus beams should attack separate targets
heres an idea... it can have two modes, one where they focus on one enemy target together and one where they attack different ones
the single target would be better for heavily armored enemies / buildings and the dual targeting would be better for small weak enemies like zerglings and marines
it could even have smart targeting and when in dual target mode if you click to attack one thing then another, one beam will attack each target chosen
SirBaron
08-18-2007, 03:47 PM
@Gah345: The idea of the beams striking different units have already been used in another game, with similiar walker-type units. C&C3, Scrin Annihilator, has just this ability, i am afraid...
Gah345
08-18-2007, 06:25 PM
that doesnt mean starcraft cannot use it
string_me_along
08-18-2007, 06:32 PM
Personally I like the red better. If gives a feeling of menace and destruction. It fits with the colossus better because the colossus was the first robot designed by the protoss for war (and retired originally because it was too good at what it did) Red for destruction. The rest of the robots should be blue for mining, etc. because they were used as workers.
Does this have anything to do with the frequencies of the beams themselves? No. I just think it would be a good thematic.
Wrathbringer
08-18-2007, 07:20 PM
Blue is fine for Protoss lasers and photon weapons, but the red is much more fitting to the Colossus since it has thermal lances. Hot objects are typically associated with red, so if the beams were changed to be blue many people would find it strange with the whole heat idea. I think it's best to just leave it the way the lances are, even if they don't quite fit in with the rest of the Protoss.
Broken_Heart
08-18-2007, 07:48 PM
I think blue is better. Most collosus like machines in other movies/games shoots blue laser. For example in War of the Worlds.
Edit: Wow! ArchLimit, our sig is so cool. That thor is even better than Blizzards.
ArchLimit
08-18-2007, 07:54 PM
I think first off the creator of the post should poll this one up. I think it's a really good question and Blizzard should hear this one out.
I'm a little undecided right now. I personally have always liked blue for everything that's protoss but at the same time the Warp ray already has a long blue beam and the variety MAY outdo the aesthetic quality of the blue itself in my opinion.
Okay, quickest change of mind ever, I still go with Blue. A red laser is too much of an "ordinary laser" to me. I mean, every laser you see on Earth is basically red. I think blue makes it more unique to the Protoss and alien-like.
zeratul11
08-20-2007, 12:17 AM
see in the new blizz demo the blue lasers of the warp rays together with red lasers of the colossus looks NICE and COOL. i can imagine both to have blue lasers...BORING!
grrrr...
08-20-2007, 06:14 PM
lets make it pink! pink rules!!!! jk : )
Smokiehunter
08-22-2007, 02:16 PM
well maby it should just be the color of the team your on like the zelots with their pink blades :P
10-Neon
08-23-2007, 06:42 PM
They could do things with the beams other than mess with their colors. It would be cool to have the Colossus fire a beam that the owner (and allies) sees as red or blue... or their own color, but is actually invisible, with a powerful ripple effect on the background, when viewed by an enemy. Real lasers (the Colossus' 'thermal lance' is admittedly probably not an actual laser) travel through the air invisibly: you only see the color when they hit something, so it would add to realism. The fact that the beam is barely visible, et extremely destructive would add to both effect and strategy. When the unit is attacking form maximum range, from, say, a cliff, the victim would not be able to immediately b able to tell what is hitting them, to the Colossus would be, in its own way, stealthy. Also, the latent power expressed by those ripples would help instill a sense of fear in the player being attacked.
At any rate, there are a lot of things Blizzard could do with the effect to accomplish whatever they're trying to do.
Hunter
08-23-2007, 07:29 PM
Yeah Protoss Psi power is blue
Quanta
08-23-2007, 08:08 PM
I say blue, and I also don't like the team color pylons and zealot psi blades. That said, if they don't change those back to blue, then I like the idea of the colossus's beam also be team color also the warp ray's beam, the immortals and cannon's plasma balls and all other protoss attacks. Either all of it blue or all of it team color not mixed. I perfer blue but at the least I want it consistant.
I like the blue beam better.
Gah345
08-24-2007, 04:02 AM
this topic seems like the tip of the psi power color controversy
i kinda like the idea of the red color, they were said to be THERMAL lances NOT channeled beams of psi power
but I understand where those who say that they should be blue are coming from
The blue used to be a distinctive mark of the protoss weaponry.
In starcraft 1 just about every protoss weapon was that bright blue and the orangy red was the more explosive color of terran firepower
but heres where it gets tricky .... what about the new change making pylons the color of the team?
It seemed like pylons emitted a field of psi energy ... should that be blue?
And what about the team color zealot blades? they too use the warrior's psi energy
In my opinion, i like the idea of having green or red bladed zealots but when you think about it, does it make sense?
i think that if a zealot's psi blades are green then wouldnt all the psi in everything else on that team? wouldnt then an archon be in a glowing ball of green psi energy?
again on the other hand, psi energy isnt described as something local to one team of protoss. I saw it as more of single form of energy that flowed through all protoss, supporting the push to return to all psi energy being the color blue
I think that if zealot blades are going to be a color other than blue, so should all the other psi energy in that team's buildings / units
as for the colossus, I am fine with the new orangy thermal lances,
Its different, think, just because the protoss often use psi energy, it doesnt mean every piece of there machinery and weaponry does
You're right. But maybe the colossus beam should be the color of the team?
CheddarCheese
08-29-2007, 03:08 PM
The team color is cool, but having purple beams?? I think I like blue better. All the other Toss wepons are blue, so why not? I also noticed that SCV engine things are blue . I liked the red. It made it seem more Terranish. Protoss=Blue Terran=Red... Uh Zerg=...Mass destruction??
Major Willy
08-29-2007, 03:09 PM
Blargech. Red Terran are the dominion. That makes me want to shoot myself and a nearby Zergling in the foot.
I always liked Teal, Blue, and White for the Terran.
SirBaron
08-29-2007, 03:53 PM
@10-Neon: Well, the Tripods in the War of the Worlds (the novel by H.G Wells) originally had invisible heat rays, but the movie adaptions added visible beams (as you surely know). I think it's just for the "coolness" factor, even though it would arguably be more innovative, and perhaps cooler, to just see ripples in the air (like when sitting by a fire and trying to watch objects through the flames) albeit it should be seen so for both enemy and ally.
freedom23
08-29-2007, 04:36 PM
Well well well,,, this is the 1st psychiatric question that ive read on the forums... actually the poll is an easy way of telling a persons personality coz we all know what can we say about the colors red and blue... but if we will base it on the protoss's race personality, they definitely had to be blue.. unless their using different energy source from the warp rays....
maybe the designer of the colossus wanted to make it blue but rather changed it to red to make it a little less more of a ground warp ray (good move ^_^)
my vote goes for red coz judging just by the sound of its name, it sure wouldnt be fit to wield the "good force power" hahahaha it really deserves to stay that way to symbolize its threatening power, passion and rage.. (much like the darkjedis) which makes me wonder if the Darktemplars are the engineers of this colossal unit.. ;D
Major Willy
08-29-2007, 04:36 PM
I think that the Colossus should have twin red beams, maybe it would be acceptable to have them change depending on team color.
Pink Protoss actually look decent by the way.
freedom23
08-29-2007, 05:16 PM
maybe a new map editor will let players decide on these things right??? now that'd be cool
Lenga
08-29-2007, 05:22 PM
i think after blizzard read this thread they created an option to change "all" the stuff to teamcolor so players can choose themselfs
manaplague
08-29-2007, 06:17 PM
well maby it should just be the color of the team your on like the zelots with their pink blades :P
I agree with this guy, with the new coloring this just seems right
Major Willy
08-31-2007, 08:44 AM
I'm hoping Battle.Net (the new one) will let you customize your army.
And custom colours that you make using sliders and whatnot.
...I'd put flame decals on Siege Tanks. BACK ON TOPIC...
Pink Colossi really don't seem that menacing.
They shoot rainbows and love at you.
string_me_along
08-31-2007, 10:01 AM
/\ "they shoot rainbows and love at you" yes... which causes an immediate and painful death. These are rainbows and love of pure incendiary power! As long as it gets the job done, I'm fine with the color.
Lenga
08-31-2007, 02:20 PM
maybe there will be more colors to pick from, than players so you can allways get a non-girly color
Major Willy
08-31-2007, 10:12 PM
I hope they have more colours than Warcraft.
How many were in that one? 16 different choices?
The Vision
09-03-2007, 05:24 AM
I want blue :)
Joneagle_X
09-03-2007, 07:25 AM
I love the blue lasers. They're so Protoss.
I don't really agree with the idea of actually making the beams invisible as it would just detract from the effect of the unit itself. Then you have to contend with the fear factor "ZOMG IT'S A COLOSSUS!!! RUN AWAY!!!!!!"
I also don't want custom colors of beams. Then it's just a really homo Pink Floyd concert.
headstock
09-03-2007, 12:08 PM
blue or RED??? maaaaaan, id say protoss is sweet with any colour BUT red.
red lasers i associate with humans, for example the red laser pointers you can buy, and the ones that go on sniper rifles n'what not. You see a show on tv with some dude gettin laser eye surgery, its always red. red red red, for the humans.
Protoss can have anythin but red aye, blue, purple, yellow, green whatever aye. i preffer blue or purple.
red but, red is human. the red of hate, red of war, red of love, red of death, red of bleeding, red of hunger, red of pride, red of fire, bla bla
i know im gonna post this and then disagree with myself in five minutes.. but meh this is what im thinkin now. :)
Proxy-serva
09-03-2007, 01:08 PM
i think the blue one is better because the warp ray has blue too so he protoss colour is blue..psi storm is blue-scI pylons are blue etc.
MarineCorp
09-03-2007, 02:49 PM
Most structures in SC1 are bland and have the same colour. All protoss structures are sort of yellowish with blue crystals here and there. Zerg structures are mostly red-brown colour and sometimes a bit of green. All Terran structures are silverish. Now that's bland isn't it? ;)
A blue ray is obviously a lot more suited to the Protoss than a red ray. The red ray has too much resembles to the yamato gun. The 3 races need to be distincted from one another.
I totally agree to that statement the 3 races needs to be more differ from each other yes the Red beam resembles to the Yamato Gun i prefer BLUE
MY FAVORITE COLOR IS BLUE!!! ;D
hillzagold
09-03-2007, 10:18 PM
everything of the protoss, from dragoons to interceptor shots to scarabs, it blue.
red is for the wraiths and BCs
zerg can have green. or purple...
Darth_Bane
09-03-2007, 11:28 PM
I think blue is good but they mey change with your armies chosen color like the psiblades and the auras of the protoss but red is just fine. This is getting way off topic and should be either locked or closed if not back on topic in my decision.
Lenga
09-04-2007, 03:27 PM
we dont know if the warp-rays beam is blue, weve only seen warprays of team blue :P
zeratul11
09-05-2007, 04:14 PM
red looks more powerful as seen in the WWI demo.
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