Jim Raynor

[ApostleOfGod]

In SC Original and perhaps in Expansion, we saw Jim Raynor as a marine or vulture (amongst other units).

Now that Tichus Findley (or whatever his name may be) is seen as the marine hero as well as the talk of the town,
what's Raynor going to do?

I would personally be interested in seeing a Jim Raynor marine with a Tichus Findley marine together in a mission :)

[zeratul11]

nah raynor will still be terrans best marrine. tychus is just he's personal bodygurad.

[[LightMare]]

i think it's the other way round. Raynor, how ever much i like him, is old history. Tichus is the new ****. but yeah, it would be interesting to see T and J on a mission.

[capthavic]

I bet he will be more like Mengsk was in the previous games; active in the story but you never see him in game.

[SirBaron]

I bet he will be more like Mengsk was in the previous games; active in the story but you never see him in game.

Then again Mengsk was a "politician", not a soldier.

You'll see, Raynor will be one the battlefield again. No doubt about it :P

[Arachanox]

Jim Raynor will fall into the 'Second-Best Marine' slot as Tichus comes into play. Tichus will pwn all, and Jim will not.

[SirBaron]

Jim Raynor will fall into the 'Second-Best Marine' slot as Tichus comes into play. Tichus will pwn all, and Jim will not.

Personally i think Jim will be more of a subtle, leader kinf of badass rather than all out visibly badass, while Tychus will literally raind badass-ishness around him in form of Gauss Rifle bullets that's gonna take out 92 Zerglings and 3 packs of Mutas... all at the same time.

[[LightMare]]

tychus will be the lone warrior. he's not so much of a team player i think. well, i hope he is, but i am assuming he isn't

[mc2]

Jim Raynor will play a bigger role in the story and in the game in SC2 since he was in the actual SC1 game. Tychus only appeared in novels and other canon released by Blizzard and never was actually in the SC1 game.

[Zerat]

this time Raynor can be some commander, like Duke or something, in some missions he had a BC - Hyperion, 10 years have passed, so I think it is quite posible.
As for Tychus I think that he would be the best candidate for beeing infested. He is a criminal that must serve as a marine for the rest of his life. He might be a good guy untill he meets Kerrigan and makes some deal wyth her to get him free from the suit and becoming an infested agent.

[coalescence]

this time Raynor can be some commander, like Duke or something, in some missions he had a BC - Hyperion, 10 years have passed, so I think it is quite posible.

He already was the commander of Raynor's Raiders since the end of the first episode... hence the name ;)

[NotDeadYet]

As for Tychus I think that he would be the best candidate for beeing infested. He is a criminal that must serve as a marine for the rest of his life. He might be a good guy untill he meets Kerrigan and makes some deal wyth her to get him free from the suit and becoming an infested agent.

Kerrigan would have little-no interest in infesting him. He has no psionic powers (At least, he probably doesn't. He doesn't strike me as the kind to blow up something with his mind instead of his rifle), and the only thing special about him is his brute strength. If Kerrigan wanted that, she could just make an Ultralisk.

[zeratul11]

how about a tychus ultralisk or an infested tychus. he will surely blow up things pretty bad.

i think raynor will become a general in starcraft 2 and tychus will be a war hero. tycus will be the first marine to hold a state of the art four barreled rocket launcher. wheres one when you need one to blow up more zergs.

[coalescence]

i think raynor will become a general in starcraft 2

He already was close to being a general being the leader of Raynor's Raiders (what's in a name?), he can't get any higher.

[NotDeadYet]

how about a tychus ultralisk...

Kerrigan can't turn him into an Ultralisk. A Terran and an Ultralisk are two different things. Turning Tychus into an Ultralisk would be like having a chicken morph into a duck. A Tychuslisk isn't going to happen.

[Fenix]

how about a tychus ultralisk...

Kerrigan can't turn him into an Ultralisk. A Terran and an Ultralisk are two different things. Turning Tychus into an Ultralisk would be like having a chicken morph into a duck. A Tychuslisk isn't going to happen.


More like a Spider monkey into a bear. A chicken and a duck are quite similar.

[SirBaron]

Tychus as an Ultralisk? Wow. What an idea. :o

[zeratul11]

how about a tychus ultralisk...

Kerrigan can't turn him into an Ultralisk. A Terran and an Ultralisk are two different things. Turning Tychus into an Ultralisk would be like having a chicken morph into a duck. A Tychuslisk isn't going to happen.


so how do they make infested terrans?.. tychus is a meat, so when he becomes a zerg hybrid more likely he will be beasty like the ultralisk, and thus born a new zerg hero tychuslisk. lol.

anyway i think general raynor sounds good.

[Code X Red]

Always thought Raynor was kind of a redneck. :-\

[marinepower]

I'm sorry to say that reading the topic you just posted gave me a headache, try to clean it up a little or else I highly doubt anyone else will respond to this.

[Hadean]

Agreed ^

Yes he is making a comeback they already said he was. Secondly, according to some theories due to the Resurrection IV level some think he'll attempt to restore Kerrigan to human form. He'll most likely kill ehr in the end though.

[josh]

i doubt that he would kill her. maybe he would conduct a cure for her infestation.

[Hadean]

Josh, did you play starcraft? That was one of the most important scenes in the story. When Jim Raynor makes a promise to Kerrigan to kill her to avenge not only Fenix but everyone who's died for her mad quest for power.

[Darktemplar_L]

I think he will help zeratul destroy the hybrids, then kerrigan will be attacked by the xel'naga and they all team up

[TerranGod]

my theory= kerrigen will become uninfested like how stukov was

[TerranGod]

in starcraft, when i see him in the little box with the face, he looks fat

[FlyingTiger]

yea then kerrigan will die right after her uninfestation... it makes a good tragedy lol

[Meloku]

no, he just has an egg shaped head!

edit: though tych. findlay is a bit stocky.

[FlyingTiger]

lol what kind of topic is this?

i dont think he's fat btw :P

[TerranGod]

he looks...fat seriously
his shoulders are wide apart
and he look...fat

[Ghost]

Even if he IS fat, he wouldnt BE fat, he'd be "pleasantly plump".

And Ive got artwork from official Blizz artists of Jimmy, he's slim.

[UchihaItachi0129]

anyone ever heard of "slim jim"? XD their beef jerky is good ^^

[DontHate]

lol... slim jim. anyways, jim is awesome. even if he is fat who cares. he still kicks ass.

[TerranGod]

no, he just has an egg shaped head!

edit: though tych. findlay is a bit stocky.


now you mention it...jim raynor looks like adam sander O.O

[UchihaItachi0129]

OMG LOL i just realiized that. rofl. i wonder if he was designed after him

[SpongeJosh]

pic of Raynor from the game interface of both SC/and SC:BW:
http://starcraft2forum.org/avatars/Starcraft1/JimRaynor.gif

Hmm, judging from my perspective, he doesn't seem fat, nor does he seem skinny, just... normal I guess? :upset:

An artwork of Raynor (courtesy of a fan):
http://www.mindistortion.net/showcasefiles/raynor.jpg

Mr. Robert Clotworthy who portrays the voice of Raynor in both the original and SC2:
http://us.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0167139/iid_1000400.jpg.html

[zeratul11]

m not sure if hes fat but hes looks old.

An artwork of Raynor (courtesy of a fan):
http://www.mindistortion.net/showcasefiles/raynor.jpg

now raynor should look like that in starcraft 2 (see link above) . not the egg looking raynor in sc1. ;D

[UchihaItachi0129]

wow the fan picture of raynor looks completely off. well in my opinion. i think mr. clotworthy looks more like raynor than that fan pic.

[SpongeJosh]

m not sure if hes fat but hes looks old.

An artwork of Raynor (courtesy of a fan):
http://www.mindistortion.net/showcasefiles/raynor.jpg

now raynor should look like that in starcraft 2 (see link above) . not the egg looking raynor in sc1. ;D


agreed, it suits the voice and appearance for him.

[DontHate]

raynor aint' THAT old.

[UchihaItachi0129]

how do you know? did you actually find a profile of him?

[DontHate]

Huh? I'm just saying i dont think he's definatly that old. That guy is like in his 50's.
And he looks like bill gates.

[zeratul11]

no, raynor is like 29 in starcraft (broodwar), hes not old but he looks old in starcraft 1.

[TerranGod]

i like the fat jim better

[UchihaItachi0129]

lol tubby :P or should i say

"pleasantly plump".

[TerranGod]

lol tubby :P or should i say

"pleasantly plump".



or should i say "adam sandler"

[UchihaItachi0129]

fine then. adam sandler :P

[TerranGod]

yea...adam sandler :)
adam sandler is hella funny

[UchihaItachi0129]

jim's not too funny... but he's funny to laugh AT :P

[zeratul11]

like he looks like adam snandler. he also looks like the guy from 24.

just make him look like tom cruise or brad pitt in sc2. that would be better.

[UchihaItachi0129]

he also looks like the guy from 24.

jack bower or w/e? it was shown on a simpson commercial it was one hilarious commercial. i forgot why it was shown. but it was in the form of a song i think

[Hadean]

Uhm. Wide shoulders? Bro. Thats marine armor. And no hes clearly not fat. Chris Metzen did a sketch of him on his vulture. Not fat in the least.

What a ridiculous topic btw.

[Hadean]

Agreed. Exactly what I was thinking. Power Up to you.

[Ych9]

Something tells me that Jim Raynor will become the first Terran (Human) hero ever worshipped by the Protoss. He will do something that would save the Protoss Race. We could be seeing a new slogan Protoss Warrior battle cry in SC2, "En Taro Raynor."

[Major Willy]

The topic name is just so wonderous. Made me laugh.

He only appears bulky in his armor. From what I've read in the books he appears in, he's got an athletic body and if heavy in any way, from some muscle he's built up in his tough life.

[capthavic]

How can you really tell? We can only see his head and a bit of his shoulders. He could be wearing armor that might make him look fat. And even if he does look fat he wouldn't be since he's usually on the front line.

BTW what is this, some celebrity tabloid?

[Shadowdragon]

"En Taro Jimmy"
Those protoss and their wacky shananigans.

Personally, I think Kerrigan isn't going to become uninfested. I think she's going to try and mutate into some form that's even MORE powerfull. She's practically impervious to the Terran (who pretty much got wiped out) and the protoss (who also got pretty much wiped out). So the only real threat left would be the hybrids and Duran. And the only way she's going to be able to fight them would be to become stronger.

[TerranGod]

How can you really tell? We can only see his head and a bit of his shoulders. He could be wearing armor that might make him look fat. And even if he does look fat he wouldn't be since he's usually on the front line.

BTW what is this, some celebrity tabloid?


you can tell if someone is fat by looking at his face, you know...

[Hadean]

Right about now, i curse the 72 hour waiting period I have to :powerdown: this goob.

I'm seeing into the future now. Next topic is "Is Sarah Kerrigan getting plastic surgery? Look at that wing job"

[TerranGod]

Right about now, i curse the 72 hour waiting period I have to :powerdown: this goob.

I'm seeing into the future now. Next topic is "Is Sarah Kerrigan getting plastic surgery? Look at that wing job"


actually it would be,

Is Sarah Kerrigan gonna get uninfestified?

[JudicatorPrime]

There could be more Terrans in Sol... who knows.

Kerrigan will probably try to 'assimilate' a Protoss, Hybrid or Xel'Naga to become more powerful and end up getting gang raped by all three.

[Itsmyship]

Jimmy has saved the Protoss arses at LEAST 3 times...I can see him doing it again.

Maybe he's like Bruce Lee, and not really dead, but perfecting his martial arts somewhere in China :P

[Lemmy]

What about tychus findlay? hes a new hero. hes dominion i think. Maybe we will even kill raynor, or team up with him? or maybe he will be the one that kills kerrigan.

About kerrigan: she dies. I just replayed bw zerg campaign. she will die. shis a *****,and *****es all die at the end.

[burkid]

tychus is gonna break off from the dominion and join jimmy most likely.

[Alasdair]

alright, this is how i think the story will play out (with alot left out)

Tychus findlay is a really tough marine in mengsk's army, and he's been noticed by mengsk and given special armor/weapons/position and rank, he leads now alot of the attacks on kerrigan's forces, but he's then sent to subdue a rebelious colony on one of the dominion's controlled planets, he then realizes that mengsk is mad (just as raynor did) so he'll break off of mengsk's forces and start trying to protect different terran colonies on different planets from zerg/mengsk. while he's fighting, he meets with raynor/zeratul and they start fighting (because they both think the other has ill intent to the good guys. after tychus loses (obviously...) he is taking prisoner and explains his case to raynor. after witch he join sides with them

So tychus will become friends with raynor, then he'll go off with raynor/zeratul, fight with mengsk, maybe fight kerrigan a bit, and try to subdue some new protoss faction that either still worship the conclave or are weird guys who have been hiding in the cornor of the universe forever.

Then Xel'Naga might show up somewhere in the zerg campaign, but they arnt playable, just like the dark templar in the original campaign (before broodwar) and they'll fight kerrigan and wipe out most of her forces but she'll manage to beat them due to some kind of help from a rebel faction from either protoss or terran.

Then once you beat the game i think kerrigan is gonna kill tychus in the final cinematic, then raynors gonna come up behind her, say something, the blow her head up with some crazy gauss rifle thing

if anyone has anything that they'd like to change or add/remove, please post

[SirBaron]

Jimmy has saved the Protoss arses at LEAST 3 times...I can see him doing it again.

Maybe he's like Bruce Lee, and not really dead, but perfecting his martial arts somewhere in China :P

Lol. :powerup:

[zeratul11]

about bruce lee.. respect for the dead.

maybe raynor will be a protoss terran hybrid in starcraft 2. i think he has join side with some protoss tribe. he's armor and weapons are protoss made. and i think he will definitely kill kerigan this time around.

i just hope zeratul will not die on this one. i want to see him back in the expansion together with the new 4th race. ;D

[thrif]

if anyone has anything that they'd like to change or add/remove, please post


I can just hope that your post was a big joke, or else blizz will definately fail all thier fans who thought starcraft had a nice story. ^^

[Hadean]

Alasdair, Tychus findlay is a psychotic Convict who they gave a gun. I think if anyone is gonna find someone crazy, it'll be Mengsk thinking he's a loose cannon. However, I do see Tychus Findlay replacing General Duke in regard to Mengsk having a right-hand General.

But anyways. Jim Raynor is not going to become a hybrid, any kind of hybrid, that'd just be retarded. He'll stay the good ol' bad ass Jimmy and in the end, kill Kerrigan (this is assuming they dont go with the un-infest plot)

[SirBaron]

Jim Raynor is definitely not gonna become a hybrid, especially not Terran/Zerg, i mean, his hatred is so strong against Kerrie and the Zerg that any attempt to infest him would have him end up un-infested or dead rather than servant to Kerrie. Like Hadean said: He's waaaay to badass to ever go with the claws - his love is with the gun, and the wondrous things it can do with some ammo against Kerries carapace.

[zeratul11]

how about a protoss terran mix (raynor). i just saw this artwork with a terran having protoss like armor and psi blades etc. i know you guys have seen it. maybe that's raynor joining force with the protoss. anyway i just love the look of that guy with protoss equipments. i dont have the link.

[Hadean]

Or maybe thats someone doing fan fiction artwork? And besides that wasnt a hybrid. That was a terran wearing a battlesuit that uses Protoss technology.

*edit* here's the link: http://www.trentkaniuga.com/art/starcraft.gif

[zeratul11]

yah, thats the pic exactly. thanks. raynor can't be a hybrid but he can wear some protoss stuffs like the one on the pic ^^

[Major Willy]

Jim Raynor's units in-game should have Protoss shields.

How long as he been allied with them now?!?

[JudicatorPrime]

Jimmy's going to crash the last Vultur filled with spider-mines right into Kerrigans face.

[SirBaron]

How long as he been allied with them now?!?
4-10 years, depending on how long it has actually been since SC:BW ended.

[Major Willy]

Exactly. Jim's helped enough to earn it.

[CapMan]

how about a protoss terran mix (raynor). i just saw this artwork with a terran having protoss like armor and psi blades etc. i know you guys have seen it. maybe that's raynor joining force with the protoss. anyway i just love the look of that guy with protoss equipments. i dont have the link.


I dont know about the rest of you but i think that would be awsome. the same kick butt rayner with new armor and mabey a ghost C-10 for his weapon. but i think he will still play a huge part in the story. In my perfect sc world rayner will walk up behind kerry and shoot her to end her regin then he probally wont be able to live with the fact that he killed her, SO he shoots him self?

[burkid]

the C-10 sucked in SC1. it did like 2-3 damage to most things, and its firing rate sucked. gauss rifle FTW!

[Major Willy]

Jim should have 2 Gauss Rifles. Just because.

[DontHate]

Jim should be a reaper. All chuck norrisy.

[Major Willy]

Nah. He'll be Marine/Cobra/Battlecruiser like in the old campaign.

[CapMan]

you think blizzard will improve the ghosts damage agianst units?

[Itsmyship]

That's what Snipe is for, although we're not entirely sure on how that works, I'm guessing it'll work like siege mode where they are glued to one spot until deactivated.

[DontHate]

yea. it would make ghosts more usefull... i wonder if u can activate snipe while bunkered down.

[Drafter]

yea. it would make ghosts more usefull... i wonder if u can activate snipe while bunkered down.


Sure hope so...

[DontHate]

yea, but i would doubt it, like the marine's stims.

[Hadean]

Naw, like i've been saying the dude Dustin Bowder or whatever was the lead designer for Red Alert 2 n Yuri's Revenge. More than likely it'll be a target an enemy and instantly kill them depending on their unit type and health. It'll take mana etc and probably be fairly costly.

[burkid]

hmm. i had assumed snipe would be passive and just cause their normal attack to have better range and do more to biologicals, and less to mechanicals.

[Indigent]

Kinda thinking the same thing until I read ItsMyShips post about kinda making a tank into siege mode only except with no delay. I think that it should be a smart casting spell like wiki said or some other place that I read or watched. It would use like 10 mp each time or something after all hard is it to look through a scope to shoot a zergling a little farther then usual using a stronger bullet dealing more damage.

On a different agenda I think the new guy will die in the end of the campaign or what not. Kerigan infests him and he becomes the right hand man kind of guy. While the terran are add it they should make a cure for infestation all the good guys are going bad. =(

[Nit]

Hello there,
this is my first post here (and You probably won`t see another one in a while xP).
`Nyway, as Jim is my favourite SC character i hope he`ll play a big role in SC2 just like he did in SC. And well... my second favourite is Kerri, and i really don`t wish her death, but if she`s going to die, Jim is only person to kill her.
And here`s the reason i post:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/44962031/?qo=26&q=queen+of+the+blades&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5 - i found this art and it was like "omg awesome" xP... Jim is wearing protoss` suit (and again "omg awesome") and he`s so badass *_*... and Kerri too, omg awesome xP...
OK, that`s enough of my ecstasy xP...

PS. omg awesome...
respects,
over and out.

[Drafter]

Just can't belief they still use knife...other than that yeah I got a feeling that Kerri gonna be killed by Jimmy too.

[LJYLJ]

so now that jim raynors return has been confirmed AND we have seem him, i was wondering what u thought about him :thumbup:

http://www.gamespot.com/video/939643/6176222/starcraft-ii-single-player-campaign-blizzcon-preview
(above is the 15min preview of the terran campaign)

[Outcaster]

Jimmy looks so Raynor :D:D:D

[GuiMontag]

he looks as similar to raynor in sc1 as you would want.

[JudicatorPrime]

I wonder if he's going to be fitted into his Space Marine suit when he goes fighting, there's a concept art of him killing a Zergling without one but for other environments he would need one, and his trusty vulture. In another concept art it shows his suit being black with a skeleton painted over it... looks awesome.

[ShoGun]

Jimmy looks great, but I’m not too fond of his voice, doesn't sound like the old Jim.

[Fenix]

I love how the booze one it winning.

[i2new@aol.com]

Yeah it's the same old jimmy, but your right his voice is kinda off.

[LJYLJ]

hes voice was fine..for a alcholic "shruG"

[Fenix]

Four years of hard liquor will change a voice beyond belief really.

[burkid]

well hard liquor and pissin on the law.
his voice sounds fine after you hear it a few times.

[Ishe]

His new voice sucks why not use the old one grrr blizzard im not impressed

[burkid]

i think its actually the same voice actor. so really you cant complain to blizzard.

[GrahamTastic]

he looks as similar to raynor in sc1 as you would want.

Meaning "not at all"? He really doesn't look or sound anything like him, except for when he says "Zeratul." They need to make him more round. Leave the tough guy roll to Tychus please.

AND KILL THE ACCENT!! Since when does our Jimmy have a southern accent??
Since Blizzcon I guess.

[Quanta]

He looks the way Jim Raynor, anit-Dominion mercenary, should look. If that isn't the way he looked it SC1 then its because they didn't make him look right in SC1.

Got to love the new Jim.

[ShasOkais]

it's not like jimmy to have hair lolz

[JudicatorPrime]

Actually he looks nothing like he does in SC1, he used to have a much rounder face...

[qOcOp]

raynor will be the first human honored by the protoss because he will do something awesome.


MARK MY WORDS.

[burkid]

he already is.

[FlyingTiger]

Meaning "not at all"? He really doesn't look or sound anything like him, except for when he says "Zeratul." They need to make him more round. Leave the tough guy roll to Tychus please.

AND KILL THE ACCENT!! Since when does our Jimmy have a southern accent??
Since Blizzcon I guess.


He always had a southern accent and he looks exactly the same even comparing it to the artowrk in the starcraft manual. In the unit portrait, his head is just shaven.

I think the voice is alright, his voice changing is like what people are saying... he's kinda depressed, worn out, and an alcoholic, but still looks and sounds hopeful and still looking for that revenge.

And what makes it seems that Raynor is taking on that tough guy role...

[Indigent]

He's not cool anymore...

[Drafter]

I didn't think he was any cooler until now.
Cool is one thing being a smart commander is another thing.

[slugonice]

Wasn't Jim Raynor bald? (Genetically inclined to be bald)
Then why does he have cool hair now?
Any thoughts on this one?

[GuiMontag]

i thought it looked more like he was shaving his head, rather than him being actually bold.
obviously hes grown it back so that he can sneak up on kerrigan without her recognising him :P

[slugonice]

so this isn't a case of genetic altering in the last few years?

[GrahamTastic]

so this isn't a case of genetic altering in the last few years?

Lol. If you ask me, that is the only way you can explain his transformation. He looks and sounds NOTHING like the Jimmy I remember from StarCraft. His hair changed, he isn't fat, his voice is twenty nine times deeper, he has a southern accent :upset:, and he face doesn't look at all like it did before.

[Nikzad]

someone in the past suggested that at the time of SC1 he was part of a (structured) military and that's why he had a buzz-cut

[GrahamTastic]

And what makes it seems that Raynor is taking on that tough guy role...

He has tattoos on his arms. Nuff said.

Either way, I have obviously been watching too much Star Trek... ::)

[BHOCKER]

To many southern accents. i will admit he looks bad ass, but i miss his old voice. On another note i hope they keep some of the old voices, marines mostly.

[Itsmyship]

The voice of Jim right now IS the old one...10 years changes a voice dude.

[Major Willy]

Hey Nik wasn't that me? Might've been. Oh well.

I genetically alter my hair sometimes too. Letting it grow is boring.

[MarineCorp]

Hey Nik wasn't that me? Might've been. Oh well.

I genetically alter my hair sometimes too. Letting it grow is boring.


...so you have long hair now??? ;D

but anyway i think the new Jimmy is cool and the voice um... i'm getting used to it

[Lemmy]

10 years doesnt change a voice. Maybe 10 years change the voice of a 1 year old baby once hes 11 years old, but it does not necesarily change a twenty something once he is thirty something. I want my old cool jim back, not this depressive bastard Han Solo wannabe.

[Jewels]

Is it really 10 years? I read somewhere that it was 3 years, or maybe I'm just mixing two things up. Regardless, I prefer the old Raynor, both in voice and appearance.

[StarCraft144000]

people do change lol I dont mind the voice of him or his hair because mine after I get a hair cut one month after its long again.

[Protosscommander]

Of course its been 10 years since we saw Jim Raynor in Starcraft so of course after that year we must expect something have been change from Jim Raynor Right,,,, God Bless this Forum :-)

[freedom23]

^_^ lol

in the near future humans hyped in science & technology and therefore lead to the birth of the legendary hair space treatment module genetically reproduced and developed from attenuated zerg creep cream AKA "Starcream" able to imitate zerg regenerating ability especially modified for hair rebirth....

get your own cream now for only 20mrl 20gas get it while the creeps still hot!!!
maybe this answered your question right??

^_^ peace

[Protosscommander]

hahahah that was funny any way

just try to view this topic and my pic it is interesting... THANKS GOD BESS U.

http://www.starcraft2forum.org/forums/index.php?topic=1919.msg47607;topicseen#new

[Major Willy]

Self promotion FTW I'm assuming?

I like the idea of Jim's hair being so important it gets it's own topic.

[PancakeChef]

Obiviously, Jim Raynor wasn't bald since now he has hair, and the passage of time its excepted for peoples apperance to change, espeically over long lengths of it.

To say there is some Starcraft conspiracy about Jim raynor and his hair is a bit out there in my opinion.

[Whatsifsowhatsit]

The voice of Jim right now IS the old one...10 years changes a voice dude.


Hmm are you sure it's the old one? Where did you see/read/hear that? Because in some Q&A in one of the videos, where an audience asked a Blizzard panel team questions, it was asked if they were gonna have the old Jimmy voice back, and the answer was "they were still contacting voice-actors" etc. ... so I think the one we heard might not be the one that's definitely in the game, and I also think it's not Robert Clotworthy (the previous voice-actor).

[PancakeChef]

They actually said they have the old guy but there is a new guy thats voice he REALLY likes for Jim raynor but he can't decide which one to use yet.

As for contacting voice actors, thats for the other characters in the game.

Then they can't bring back the guy who did Zeratual because he has passed away.

[ArchLimit]

I really liked the way Raynor used to sound in SC1, whether or not it's actually a new actor. He spoke faster and more naturally, without the southern accent. Somebody said there are two many southern accents and I agree. Even in the Protoss demo we saw that one crazy terminator looking old general and he was such a southern stereotype (minus the glowing eye thing) with his accent and a pipe.

Raynor also grew his hair back out to have a chance to score with Kerrigan, cuz he realized that she was very dismissive of him the first time around when he was bald.

[PancakeChef]

Well, I guess since I'm from the South, I'm used to those accents and actually like them and think they fit well with the whole style of the Terran.

I mean even in the first Starcraft they had a few redneck guys although they weren't main characters.

[GrahamTastic]

StarCraft II only takes place 4 years after Brood War I'm pretty sure.

[capthavic]

He's been through a lot; SC1, Brood War, and whatever he's been doing the past 10 years.

[Whatsifsowhatsit]

Still, somehow I don't find his change too realistic somehow, from a psychology point of view. Well, maybe it's not that unrealistic, but let's just say there's other options they could've went for that were at least as realistic and, to me, more likable...

They actually said they have the old guy but there is a new guy thats voice he REALLY likes for Jim raynor but he can't decide which one to use yet.

So, the one we heard so far, was that the old guy, or the new guy that they really liked?

[Jewels]

It may be 10 years between release dates, but SC2 is set 4 years after Brood War, and that isn't really long enough to cause such a change in both appearance in sound.

[Major Willy]

Growing your hair in 3 inches to make it longer for the sequel takes four years?

[Jewels]

It's not only the hair; just compare his overall appearance and his voice between the two games.

[PancakeChef]

I think if he looked and sounded just the same and everything from Starcraft 1, people would still complain but about there "being nothing new to him" instead.

[JudicatorPrime]

I'm not too sure about sounded, but looks? You need an eye check there buddy, you can hardly mistake them for being twins, at the most VERY distant relatives...

[Jewels]

I think if he looked and sounded just the same and everything from Starcraft 1, people would still complain but about there "being nothing new to him" instead.

Four years of realistic change should be acceptable for anyone. This new Raynor is like a completely different person; his facial structure for starters is not the same.

[millions]

yeah he had some plastic surgery done......... as for sound they did say he drinks alot....... straight up whiskey or scotch can really change your voice..... look at Lawrence Tierney now thats a whiskey voice (he is the voice of the security guard of the mall when bart steals bonestorm in simpsons)

[Hadean]

I agree on the accent. It seems alot thicker than it was before, also given that the voice sounds alot deeper than it did before that also effects just how thick we find the accent.

[Hadean]

Keep in mind. If you check Chris Metzen's artwork (the famous artist of Blizz and also the guy who wrote up most of the characters and did most of the storyline) shows raynor full head of hair chillin out on a bike. I can find it if you'd like.

*edit* http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/viewer_metzen.php?cat=starcraft&art=74&sub=71

If it just shows you metzen's stuff. Go to the picture labeled "Easy Rider".

[SirBaron]

Wasn't Jim Raynor bald?

Nope, he wasn't bald, and he wasn't fat either like someone else mentioned. If you look closely you can actually see his hair, it's a military buzz cut. Remember that he was in the Confederate Militia, a marshal to be exact.
And his looks... i mean wtf, it's been 4 years in game of heavy drinking and sobbing over Kerrigan and Fenixgoon.

Also, it's been 10 years IRL, and technology has advanced quite a bit ever since. If you don't believe me... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Easy_Rider_%28StarCraft%29.jpg
There's your Jimbo.

[StarCraft144000]

Its been four years people do grow their hair his look is fine.

[Hadean]

way to post the link I JUST posted baron :P

[Major Willy]

Ugh I don't like Metzen's art at all.

Even the stuff he does nowadays/recentyl.

[Hadean]

Regardless he's the creator of jim so you must love him.

[freedom23]

Ive posted something bout raynors hair on some thread regarding terrans 10yrs of research making use of a brand new genetically enhanced zerg creep substance bio-engineered and replicated its immense capacity to regenerate cells targeted specifically to mans scalp henceforth solving any hair problems like baldness and even those cancer patients suffering from allopecia... ^_^ product specifically developed to regrowth mans hair and solving Raynors tragic bald guy look making him look more manly lol

change is :good:

[Hadean]

Yeah we saw that post. Pretty sure no one responded to it too.

:good:

[Major Willy]

UGH.
METZEN'S ART.

Just ugh.

Ucgh with a C this time. God damnit Metzen just aucgh.