Overmind ressurection

[overmind]

should the awesome overmind be back in starcraft? we know he died but its the overmind for gods sake he could come back. its better than kerrigan as a leader and it is completely nessacery to unite the swarm.

[SirBaron]

When many enough Cerebrates join/meld together, they may "give birth" to a new Overmind. They did this in BW, when Daggoth, leader of the Tiamat Brood, melded together with some lower Cerebrates and created the 2nd Overmind. Kerrigan killed it though (or rather Zer<3 did, on the order of Kerrigan). Well, if the Cerebrates were to join again, the Overmind could be "reborn". Although if you refer to the Old (1st) Overmind... he'll never be back, cause he was blasted to smithereens by High/Dark Templar energies.

Also, Kerrigan is technically an Overmind right now. Even before that she was considered a Cerebrate of the Swarm, as she had a personality and could exert influence over Zerg.

[PowerkickasS]

it'll be funny if we are an overmind in our own zerg campaign

[Meee]

How can there be starcraft without killing an overmind? :p

[PowerkickasS]

z0mgs so true lol

[Zerat]

How can there be starcraft without killing an overmind? :p

simple .. killing Kerrigan :]
She dosen't want any of the celebrets to greate a new overmind, last time it gave here lots of truble

[Meee]

How can there be starcraft without killing an overmind? :p

simple .. killing Kerrigan :]
She dosen't want any of the celebrets to greate a new overmind, last time it gave here lots of truble


well that IS killing overmind...sorta ^^

[PowerkickasS]

nah we need an overmind to kill. and some more invincible cerebrates plz ^^

[Meee]

don't forget to bring your infested ghosts too ;)

[PowerkickasS]

that sounded like halo2 tbh

[[LightMare]]

the overmind hsa to come back. yes, kerrigan was melded by cerebrates when she was captured, but she couldn't control the zerg, so she commissioned the protoss do kill it for her

[hillzagold]

you were a cerebrate before. with the help of duran, you will become the overmind.

[Itsmyship]

I miss the 1st overmind...i like him better than Kerrigan, then again, zerg are my least favorite race.. =P I hope he comes back in some odd way to make trouble to Kerrigan x:D

[mc2]

Kerrigan will possibly remain the sole ruler of the zerg for the entire story of starcraft 2. I predict that she'll die when the story ends. This sends the zerg into disarray once again and results in a cliffhanger. Then in the follow up expansion pack(s), either multiple cerebrates will fuse together to make a new overmind again. Or the Xel'Naga might step in to interfere the entire swarm with their ''new'' overmind or something new.

[paragon]

I think if anything the Xel'Naga would just rather wipe out the Zerg. Start with a clean slate.
As for another overmind, I certainly hope note. The overmind is overdone.

In the last mission of StarCraft I blew up both the overmind and the overmind without it's shell before the mission ended. I did this by sticking 5 or 6 nukes down its throat at about 1/2 second intervals. So, I wondered why Tassadar had to go sacrifice himself to destroy something that wasn't there anymore.

[PowerkickasS]

nah cant have been your nuke
once a [shelled] overmind dies it is immediately overlaped a basic undeveloped overmind set in an invincible state, of which then blows up about 2 seconds later
id laugh if kerrigan respawns like an overmind if she dies
kill zeratul quickly my queen!

[SirBaron]

you were a cerebrate before. with the help of duran, you will become the overmind.

I don't think he needs an Overmind.

[paragon]

StarCraft 2 is 10 years after Brood Wars, no 4.
Also, the old overmind was kinda cocky. And boring. He didn't really do much.

[Code X Red]

StarCraft2 Zerg need a ''real'' Overmind not Kerrigan. 8)

[SirBaron]

StarCraft 2 is 10 years after Brood Wars, no 4.
Also, the old overmind was kinda cocky. And boring. He didn't really do much.

Cocky? Nah. He was cool. And unlike Kerrigan he wasn't the peak of evil... he just wanted to eat the Protoss.

Oh, and regarding the amount of years that has passed since SC: BW... no one really agrees, since one source says 4 years and another says 10. Blizzard will tell once the time is right.

And to be real honest - 10 years is like... a lot of time for Kerrigan to rape every faction in the sector.

[paragon]

She seemed content to lord over the Korprulu sector for the time being and just crush anyone who came up against her. Perhaps the start of SC2 is a group rising up against Kerrigan.

[SirBaron]

She seemed content to lord over the Korprulu sector for the time being and just crush anyone who came up against her. Perhaps the start of SC2 is a group rising up against Kerrigan.

Maybe. But if i know Kerrigan correct (which i actually don't, but f**k it i like to use that metaphor :P) she would completely and utterly rape anyone she suspected powerful enough to de-seat her.
I know it's a far fetched theory, and most likely one that's not going to happen, but perhaps Duran and his homies do a drive-by on her main cluster, weakening her enough for the major Korprulu parties to rise up and whoop up some serious chaos on her forces.

Just a theory likely to NOT happen.

[paragon]

Most (all) theories about storyline are not going to happen.
That being said. Daggoth comes back and pummels Kerrigan with a renegade zerg swarm.

[SirBaron]

Most (all) theories about storyline are not going to happen.
That being said. Daggoth comes back and pummels Kerrigan with a renegade zerg swarm.

Well, i don't wanna burst your bubble or anything (... lol, subconcious paladin reference? :o) but Daggoth is dead... he kinda was the 2nd Overmind together with some unnamed Cerebrates and got raped in the end by Zer-Ker Supercombo Darknesstemplarpowerstrike!!11. :o
okay just Zeratul on the order of Kerrigan. Anyways, he's dead.

Maybe the Jormungand sub-Cerebrate (player) will finally kick Kerrigan in that infested behind she possess and seize the Swarm for his/herself. Maybe.

[goliath]

i think kerrigan will be the over mind who leads the zerg....and i guess she will infest one of terran's heros or protoss hero and he will take her place where she was in sc1...what do u think??

[SirBaron]

i think kerrigan will be the over mind who leads the zerg....and i guess she will infest one of terran's heros or protoss hero and he will take her place where she was in sc1...what do u think??

Nah that would be asking to be betrayed. I think she wants her back free for the moment until she finds someone she can either trust or fully manipulate. Or she will just rule alone forever... (not much to rule really)

[paragon]

Daggoth may have just "birthed" the overmind rather than evolving into it.

[SirBaron]

Daggoth may have just "birthed" the overmind rather than evolving into it.

Well Blizzard was very specific that Daggoth and some random Cerebrates melded together into the 2nd Overmind. Even if i was wrong he'd surely be dead by now in any case anyway considering that Kerrigan is the vile spawn-of-hell that she is... /spit.

[burkid]

the overmind has to come back cuz hes freakin sweet and even raps if you type "radio free zerg" in on zerg single player

[paragon]

But the Tiamat brood was so cool... they had Hunter Killers.

[SirBaron]

But the Tiamat brood was so cool... they had Hunter Killers.

Yeah i loved Tiamat too. Hunterkiller4eva<3

[paragon]

and Tiamat is named after the Babylonian creator goddess that raised a demonic army to battle the other gods after something happened that she didn't like

[SirBaron]

and Tiamat is named after the Babylonian creator goddess that raised a demonic army to battle the other gods after something happened that she didn't like

Yeah, and her name was used for the five-headed dragon queen of the chromatic dragons in D&D. And the dragon-queen in that story with Raistil Majere (w/e it's called, can't remember...) too.

[overmind]

you considering you'r a cerebrate should go renagade and merg to make an overmind.

[burkid]

when kerrigan is the queen ***** of the universe, she can pretty much be as lazy as she wants

[SirBaron]

when kerrigan is the queen ***** of the universe, she can pretty much be as lazy as she wants

Actually she has kind of elevated herself to a position where more or less anyone can get a whack at her, so she can't be that lazy or else she'd have a dagger in her back in like 2 days.
I always speculated after BW that she'd go busy looking for Duran, i mean he was her loyal side-kick and he just disappeared. She ought to know where he went or she'd just be forced to assume that yet another, "unknown" faction is out there to threat her position (which we know that she has).

[PrivateJoker]

You know, I think Kerrigan will function as the overmind, and control most of the Zerg swarms.

[paragon]

She is surrounded by Zerg that follow her will. She can't have a dagger in her back as only protoss or humans would do this and they wouldn't be able to get near her.

And remember her last line something like "and not all your little spaceships or men will be able to stop me"
Pretty cocky.

[PowerkickasS]

You see, at this point... I'm pretty much the Queen ***** of the Universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in my way again.

Kerrigan is my mum

[burkid]

i was so glad when the french guy shot himself right after that

[paragon]

i was so glad when the french guy shot himself right after that

Yes, this was the best part of the game. He caused the death of all his men. Serves him right.

[PowerkickasS]

on the topic of the UED getting slaughtered
can human technology travel warp space?

[paragon]

Yes. The Hyperion warped to Auir with the Gantrithor.

[PowerkickasS]

ok lemme rephrase. can terrans/humans create worm tunnels?

[paragon]

The original ships that sent the Terrans from earth were travelling at warp speeds. But not through a worm hole.

[PowerkickasS]

the zerg must fly REALLY fast to be able to capture the terrans moving at warp speeds....

[paragon]

Yes well overlords only move slow in atmosphere or near platforms because of the gravity and friction. However, in open space they really open up and are ridiculously fast. Same with mutalisks. With no friction slowing them down in space, each flap of their wings makes them go faster and faster until they are going at warp speeds.

[burkid]

how do mutas move in space because they use wings and there is no medium in space?

[paragon]

They use solar winds.
Solar winds are very powerful. Of course this now questions how they travel in deep space away from suns. They probably use dark matter or something ridiculous or they straighten out and fire in the opposite direction they want to move and use it like an engine. An engine of death.

[coalescence]

how do mutas move in space because they use wings and there is no medium in space?


High velocity farting.

[burkid]

hmm... yeah it could be solar winds. then if they really need to the zerg can open up wormholes too.

[paragon]

Thats true. They probably worm holed to the terran fleet.

[SirBaron]

You know, I think Kerrigan will function as the overmind, and control most of the Zerg swarms.

She was indirectly defined as a Cerebrate in Chapter II, so your statement is true.

But she is Overmind in concept only, and like a Cerebrate can hold no power over another Cerebrate, she cannot control more Zerg than those she has forced Cerebrates to relinquish in return for their lives, and those she has retaken from the UED (which is more or less the whole Swarm). She is the closest to an Overmind as any creature in the Korprulu sector can get, but she is no Overmind.

[ImaGiNe.]

how do mutas move in space because they use wings and there is no medium in space?


Come on guys, Observation will tell you how they move through space. They flap their wings. HahahahAH!

Also Kerrigan already controls a large number of hives, though SirBaron's explanation is quite the head banger (in a good way.)

[coalescence]

Come on guys, Observation will tell you how they move through space. They flap their wings. HahahahAH!

That wasn't funny in any way, and if you were even a bit serious; flapping stuff in space doesn't work.

[SirBaron]

Also Kerrigan already controls a large number of hives, though SirBaron's explanation is quite the head banger (in a good way.)

Well, she was all like "Serve me and you shall not die" to the Cerebrate from Chapter II. She could have done the same to most Zerg Cerebrates prior to UED's invasion. Also, Cerebrates are sentient beings unlike the remaining 99% of the Swarm, and even though the Overmind held sway over them i don't think it was only their bond to the Overmind that made them obey him.
I think that another reason why they followed him with unyielding loyalty was that they naturally trusted in his judgement, for example, when Kerrigan went all "OMG I R LEVEL 70 AND GOT LIEK TIER 5 d00d U SUX CAUSE U R LOWBIE NOOB" on Zasz for reconsidering a direct attack on the Protoss, Zasz questioned the Overmind's choice to let her run rampant. If the Overmind's will was truly unquestionable, then it could not be questioned, yet it was questioned by Zasz.

Also, as it is evidenced with Zasz's death and the Overmind's shock state, the Cerebrates were all forced to control the Swarm individually without their common guidance of the Overmind. This led me to my belief that no Cerebrate can control another Cerebrate, and as Kerrigan is not an Overmind but a mere Cerebrate, she cannot control other Cerebrates as other Cerebrates cannot control her. So technically, if she lets her guard down, some Cerebrate would foolishly "stab" her, in a metaphorical sense.
It's her sheer amount of Zerg and her powerful will and unyielding influence over the Swarm (in addition to some life threats here and there) that keeps the Cerebrates loyal to her and keep herself sitting on the throne of the Zerg (and Korprulu Sector).

Well, that's how i speculate on things.

[overmind]

its not life threats that the cerebrates fear is worse than death-many deaths they would just ressurect if they died and she would kill them again.

[hillzagold]

cerabrates are not all equal, they at least have some ranking sytem, as kerrigan and daggoth are both the most powerful following the overmind,a nd he did say that kerrigan was his greatest creation, obviously surpassing the average cerabrate

[burkid]

wow baron, you must think about this stuff alot

[CodyFallsForth]

I'm guessing that somewhere in the middle of the story Duran comes in with his hybrids and screws everyone over. He did just kinda...disappear...

[paragon]

that would probably be the most likely thing to happen codyfallsforth

[burkid]

I'm guessing that somewhere in the middle of the story Duran comes in with his hybrids and screws everyone over. He did just kinda...disappear...

if he didnt, id be terribly dissapointed in him

[Ghost]

If that happens, Fenix IS coming back as an immortal. xD

[paragon]

why would that be? duran has no connection to fenix

[Ghost]

Im just sayin that if blizz is crazy enough to make duran return with a huge army of hybrids why not crazy enough to bring good 'ol Fenix back.

[paragon]

except that thats what duran said he would do in the bonus mission and they wouldn't have that in and then get everyone's hopes up...