Protoss has too many lasers!!

[bigtymers69]

Don't you guys think that protoss has too many lasers in SC2?
I thought protoss was more advanced in technology than humans.
Their knowledge in time and space is beyond human.(They use psi disrupter, photons and warp)
Why do they use lasers like humans(bc, wraith)? It's like terran using stone axe.
Besides it's sick if you see too many lasers and we want variety of effects.
I think lasers are enough for Warp rays but there are two more units using lasers!(Soul Hunter, Collosus)
That's like too many! I think they should change effects of their weapons.
It would be great if Soul Hunters burn enemies from range without firing anything
just take a motion of soul draining and enemy starts to burn!
also I miss the big ball like missile of dragoon T.T

[PowerkickasS]

i think we talked about this somewhere else. oh well

yes too many lasers. archons + laser = OMFG...!?

[generalrievous]

i think we talked about this somewhere else. oh well

yes too many lasers. archons + laser = OMFG...!?

lolz archons dont shoot lasers they shoot psiconic lightning

[ImaGiNe.]

We would be expecting the use of lasers or some sort of particle beam/plasma type weapon from such a highly technologically advanced race. What would you like them to shoot? Spines? Glave Wurms? DU shells? Though I do get the part of the lasers being way too repetitive in StarCraft 2, which brings about another question: Would the use of said lasers excessively by many units in StarCraft 2 lag the game?

[[LightMare]]

the lasers are fine, stop complaining

[bigtymers69]

I don't know lol. It's blizzard's job to think of other weapons. They should be more creative than right now.

[[LightMare]]

indulge me with these weapons. ever seen Star Wars? what other weapons apart from lasers where there? besides, the only units with lasers in protoss, are colossus, phoenix, and mothership. and those lasers are psi energy

[burkid]

yeah,lasers are the trademark of the protoss, complaining about it is like saying the zerg uses too many claws or the terrans use too many guns

[FlyingTiger]

haha i don't think the phoneix even have lasers. there are some sort of psi missle thingamabobs.

... and hey who said they are lasers? They could be some sophisticated protoss weapon that appears like lasers :P


yeah,lasers are the trademark of the protoss, complaining about it is like saying the zerg uses too many claws or the terrans use too many guns


yea definetly agree with that. it's futile to argue. the next thing you know, were complaining that they are using too much psi haha

[ImaGiNe.]

I don't know lol. It's blizzard's job to think of other weapons. They should be more creative than right now.

You're right biggy! Though we have to remember that some things are subject to change.

[PowerkickasS]

i think we talked about this somewhere else. oh well

yes too many lasers. archons + laser = OMFG...!?

lolz archons dont shoot lasers they shoot psiconic lightning

damn.....
archons + psionic lightning that looks like a squiggly laser = OMFG...!?

[Outcaster]

QUIT complaining in vain,for nothing etc etc geez...

[PowerkickasS]

why not :P

[ImaGiNe.]

I think people are allowed to express their concern, big's concern is that he finds Protoss units to be using lasers repetitvely. I mean it's StarCraft 2 and we have waited a decade for this, don't we deserve to see a diverse assortment for the Protoss arsenal?

[burkid]

the colossus shoots red lasers, the sould hunter shoots green lasers, the warp reay shoots blue lasers, the ms, stalker, pheonix shoot blue laser-missles... so they use alot of lasers, so what, they also talk with their heads, but no one is complaining about that.

[ImaGiNe.]

We would be expecting the use of lasers or some sort of particle beam/plasma type weapon from such a highly technologically advanced race.
Just something I said in an earlier post, however I would like to defend big's opinion.

[SirBaron]

Ok, listen up. The Protoss use mainly PHOTON weaponry. PHOTONS are LIGHT PARTICLES. LASER is concentrated LIGHT. SO YES, the Protoss ARE using LAZERz and many of THEM. BESIDES, who doesn't like LAZERz? :thumbup:


ever seen Star Wars? what other weapons apart from lasers where there?
Ok, i really don't wanna be an ass, but the weapons in SW is mostly blasters, which i think differ themselves from lasers in some way. Although, aside from SW: Kotor i'm not very "into" Star Wars, so i could be wrong, and you could be right. But i believe Blasters and Lazserz (excuse the spelling, i won't correct it because i think it looks cute) aren't the same thing. Blasters may be "concentrated heat?", but what do i know? Can't say i like Star Wars or know much about it, except SW: Kotor then which i already mentioned (p.s Revan is teh ****) :P

[Dxun]

if i may shed some light...(heh)in Star wars the Blaster projectiles are bolts of plasma, in star trek they use Phasers but are the same thing as lasers.. IE Beam of light (see colossus) so a laser wouldn't be in bursts

[FlyingTiger]

In conclusion, who gives a damn if they use soo many laser weapons. What do u want ffrom them? Balls of photons that explodes into acidic green goo that eventually turns into shrapnel which would morph into a red light phenomenon which creates a epic-like explosion that does 15 damage?

Its like telling the zerg to stop using their claws and headbutt everyone. ^_^

[SirBaron]

Balls of photons that explodes into acidic green goo that eventually turns into shrapnel which would morph into a red light phenomenon which creates a epic-like explosion that does 15 damage?

Sounds exactly like some crap George Lucas would implement into a game if he ever made one (praise god he doesn't do games)...

[MrFrancko]

I don't think the protoss use too many lasers. I mean, the scout used a machine gun of some sort. That never really made sense to me though so maybe more lasers isn't a bad thing. I also feel like protoss lasers are more focused than the Terrans. The Terrans lasers are more burst firing why the Protoss in SC seem to be using streams of energy; i.e. the warp rays and colossus. This just means that they are more advanced.

[capthavic]

I don't know lol. It's blizzard's job to think of other weapons. They should be more creative than right now.


I think they are more worried about balance and making a fun game than "Do we have too many lasers?"

Besides it's like Star Wars fans complaining that there are too many lasers or Jedi powers!

[surr]

ok telling protoss to stop using lasers is telling humans stop using missles and bullets,,, not very smart unless u want a marine wielding a bow and arrow and a zealot swining a flameberg at you.

[Itsmyship]

I think this is the most ridiculous arguement post since the Colossus laser color topic ;D :P ^_^

[Outcaster]

lasers ,lasers,lasers... these are implemented in SC2 in different assortments which look very good in my opinion, and they are also put there in order to show effects like glow, bloom etc.. what did u want to shoot, bullets, missiles or what... little fluffy bunny rabbits that say BOOM when they hit the target, lol


P.S. it's still early alpha, they may change some things in what concerns this "problem"

[DontHate]

i personally love all the lazers. the collosi's esspecially. it's a beam surrounded with another thinner lazer.

[coalescence]

btw, soul hunter has no laser. lasers are waves of lights, but we can't see those waves, so a laser looks like a straight line to us. Well the beam of the soul hunter isnt a straight line, it looks more like an electrocal discharge (which is also not what it is) if you look at the shape. And lasers don't suck up souls (and protoss shouldnt do that too actually)

[Itsmyship]

Actually coal, we are seeing the Soul Hunters using Soul Steal...which they learned from the undead warlocks that crash landed on Aiur :)

[paragon]

I see nothing wrong with the protoss using lasers. They used to use what? mostly photons, the scout had missiles and an autocannon, and then some things had psi blades or other psi damage things.

[10-Neon]

Actually, I don't think any of the Protoss weapons are supposed to be lasers. The only laser-users are the Terrans. The complaint seems to be directed towards "energy weapons," with "beam" and "projectile" subsets. if you think about it, there aren't many more ways of causing damage to something...except for spontaneous damage without some form of transfer...and some units (like with the Dark Archon's Feedback) even do that.

They do use only energy weapons, but they are abstract energy weapons. if they were lasers you wouldn't be able to see them, you'd only be able to see the red dot of where they are hitting, if that.

And lasers aren't "concentrated light," they are "coherent light"- light with one uniform wavelength. The amount of energy in the beam (or even whether it is a beam at all) has nothing to do with something being a laser.

[DontHate]

why should terrans have lasers? they should just have good ole' bullets and artillery. also their lazers are redish orange, protoss's are blue.

[paragon]

The most powerful lasers that we currently had are made from different gases like oxygen or CO2 or other things. The protoss probably have something better. And the most powerful lasers we have have successfully intercepted artillery shells and rockets and destroyed them so Terrans having lasers in the year 2500 isn't far fetched at all.

[WuHT]

I actually liked the "antimatter encased in an energy field" type projetile (ie the energy balls) from dragooons, photon cannon, and arbitor. they dont fill in the screen as much as the newer "laser beam" type weapons..and lets you SEE whats under them more easily. This is why i liked siege tanks and marines as well...

[burkid]

to all of you that didnt like the colossi's laser, its a [i]thermal lance:P

[paragon]

to all of you that didnt like the colossi's laser, its a [i]thermal lance:P

heat ray

[MrFrancko]

to all of you that didnt like the colossi's laser, its a [i]thermal lance:P

heat ray

The Colossus' were originally used as giant cooking mechanisms. You could cook a whole feast in seconds!

[for-glory]

in the future ...there are no microwaves only colossus..es

[paragon]

to all of you that didnt like the colossi's laser, its a [i]thermal lance:P

heat ray

The Colossus' were originally used as giant cooking mechanisms. You could cook a whole feast in seconds!

They had a thanksgiving bengalas the size of a mammoth


plural of colossus is colossi

[Major Willy]

I don't like the way Twilight Archons attack.

[DontHate]

yea me neither the archons need lazers.

[Major Willy]

I like the old fashioned Psionic Waves.

The new Twilight Archon one is decent but it looks too small for something that powerful.

[[LightMare]]

yea me neither the archons need lazers.

I like the old fashioned Psionic Waves.

The new Twilight Archon one is decent but it looks too small for something that powerful.

twilight archon is sexy enough as it is. not a "lazor" for an archon. he emits and uses pure psionic energy

[Major Willy]

I never wanted a laser for the Archon and Twilight Archon. I like the old attack and the new one looks like a downgrade.

[bigtymers69]

sorry for calling them lasers!
whatever you call it(beams or waves) there are too many of continuous firing stuff.
It's way too repititive and I think we need something like dragoon's missile or corsair's. Perhaps something new would be much better!

[Inside Sin]

ROFL!.

Terrans use Weapons such as bullets or fire. They are advanced but not laser advanced.

Protoss Uses lasers and waves. They are around 100 Years ahead of terran in technology. And they're aliens.

Zergs are just evolved with instict.

[paragon]

Terrans use Weapons such as bullets or fire. They are advanced but not laser advanced.

Er... the wraith has lasers.

And the protoss stuff isn't technically lasers.

[10-Neon]

According to the Colossus page, they use "thermal lances," making the Colossus more of a direct rip from the book War of the Worlds than the recent movie War of the Worlds was... except the Colossus has one more leg and one more heat ray than the Tripods.

Oh, and Battlecruisers use lasers too, and so do Ghosts, but not in quite the same way.

[paragon]

Ghosts have laser pointers.
I think the Colossi from the concept art had 3 legs. Can't really tell though.

[burkid]

Ghosts have laser pointers.
I think the Colossi from the concept art had 3 legs. Can't really tell though.

it does. i think they got remodeled between the intercession and now with 4 legs.

[paragon]

Probably wanted to make it not a tripod like in War of the Worlds so they wouldn't be sued by some overzealous exec or something

[burkid]

Probably wanted to make it not a tripod like in War of the Worlds so they wouldn't be sued by some overzealous exec or something

i wouldnt be suprised if that was the case.

[thiefingdude]

How will the damage count in lasers? I'm still wondering about that...
Will it be continuous? Or will it be like (let's say Warp Ray did 5 damage) Warp Ray do 5 damage per .5 second?

[paragon]

How will the damage count in lasers? I'm still wondering about that...
Will it be continuous? Or will it be like (let's say Warp Ray did 5 damage) Warp Ray do 5 damage per .5 second?

Good question. No idea.

edit: actually, for the colossus, the thermal lance stops firing after a while even though it doesn't shut off after it kills a target so, the total damage of the whole long burst will probably be it's damage

[Major Willy]

Since the Colossi Thermal Lances move around after killing a unit and targetting a new one, it'll most likely do damage to whatever the lance sweeps over while making the transition.

[burkid]

i think it would give you the dps (dmg per sec) for the colossus, but for the warp ray it would probably give you a sort of give you something like "5dps compounding every 3 seconds" or something like that

[paragon]

i think it would give you the dps (dmg per sec) for the colossus, but for the warp ray it would probably give you a sort of give you something like "5dps compounding every 3 seconds" or something like that

I think willy and I are right about the colossus.

[burkid]

i think im right about the warp ray.

[paragon]

i think im right about the warp ray.

I think you are too.

[burkid]

i think im right about the warp ray.

I think you are too.

sweet im not alone.

[10-Neon]

Probably wanted to make it not a tripod like in War of the Worlds so they wouldn't be sued by some overzealous exec or something


My personal theory is that 4 legs is less awkward to animate than 3.

[burkid]

neon congrats on getting that ticket!

[Lord David]

Probably wanted to make it not a tripod like in War of the Worlds so they wouldn't be sued by some overzealous exec or something

Why would they be sued? Just think of it as an "inspiration" or a "homage". But then again, most people would see it as some sort of evil Protoss war machine, which the Protoss are not.

[paragon]

thats why I said overzealous. Most people wouldn't think of it. But an overzealous person would just to do it.

[lilchibikun]

that is so true! protoss should have more solid projectiles than lasers.

[Itsmyship]

Hey  lilchibikun ...don't get post crazy, actually read what people are talking about before you post and not just the topic.  oh and btw welcome to the forum :)

[lilchibikun]

lol ok. haha

[Major Willy]

With these laser attacks, I vote we change Protoss to Pewtoss. Oh I'm so clever.

Gonna pat myself on the head and gimme a cookie.

[paragon]

pewtoss? that doesn't even make sense.

[DontHate]

if you have not heard,
LAZERZ GO PEW PEW PEW!
lol 69 posts :D

[paragon]

lasers don't go pew pew pew...

[DontHate]

yea but it's just... "internet slang" i guess u would say. sort of like "pwn" or "noob" just on a smaller level.

[T-man]

I do have to defend DontHate's position there. Even on this forum, there was a Terran topic talking about lasers making the "pew, pew" sound, instead of a more ferocious sound like "whoosh bang" (that's not very ferocious either, but it's hard to spell awesome sounds).
I even chuckled mildly at Major Willy's joke.

[paragon]

i still think it's not funny

[Ghost]

I cant stop laughing at the last couple of posts hehe.

Now, it depends on the laser if it goes pew pew or zoom zoom, or shhhhhhk if its one of those continous laser beams. xD

[paragon]

i don't even remember the sounds of any of the energy weapons in starcraft 2

[burkid]

i dont think they went PEW PEW! that would be kinda retarded. :-\

[paragon]

that would be the dumbest sound effect possible. Even the interceptors were cooler. Actually, the interceptors were pretty cool.

[Major Willy]

I liked the sound of the Interceptors departing the Carriers. I hope they keep that for the Tempests.

[paragon]

yeah and I hope the tempest interceptors have good slicing sounds and spinning sounds.