Colossus @ starcraft2.com

[FlyingTiger]

Oh hey guys....  :thumbup:

http://www.starcraft2.com/features/protoss/index.xml?tab=colossus

This page is full of wonderful things. haha the weapons aren't lasers for those who read the "Protoss has too many lasers topic!" It's called thermal lances ^_^.

oooo and the colossus is affected by anti-air too. Makes sense.

Someone said to submit news but I dunno how to do it. Oh well.

[FlyingTiger]

I dunno why but this looks awesome.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/flyswimmer716/ss18.jpg

Reavers!! ^_^

...and awesome screenshot with colossus and siege tanks

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/flyswimmer716/ss15.jpg

yay!

[Itsmyship]

Hehehe...on the in-game footage sound bit that they showed it shooting at the marines, I coulda sworn that I heard it say "Go b*tch, let's go!"  :P

And btw...CAN siege tanks attack Collosi?

[FlyingTiger]

Hehehe...on the in-game footage sound bit that they showed it shooting at the marines, I coulda sworn that I heard it say "Go b*tch, let's go!" :P

And btw...CAN siege tanks attack Collosi?


yup colossus is affected by both anti-ground and anti-air

[Itsmyship]

Huh...well, I'm still not too fond of the Colossus. It seems like a very costly unit to make, and the fact that it can be attacked by air and ground makes it seem like an easy thing to kill

Reavers ftw!!!

[MrFrancko]

Huh...well, I'm still not too fond of the Colossus. It seems like a very costly unit to make, and the fact that it can be attacked by air and ground makes it seem like an easy thing to kill

Reavers ftw!!!

Is that a dragoon in the first picture? Wtf?
Also, as it goes, the colos seems like a great unit, especially on maps with a lot of cliffs. What is a group of lings going to do if one is up on a ledge like in that second picture?

[Itsmyship]

Huh...well, I'm still not too fond of the Colossus. It seems like a very costly unit to make, and the fact that it can be attacked by air and ground makes it seem like an easy thing to kill

Reavers ftw!!!

Is that a dragoon in the first picture?  Wtf? 
Also, as it goes, the colos seems like a great unit, especially on maps with a lot of cliffs.  What is a group of lings going to do if one is up on a ledge like in that second picture?


hey, if its cost effective and it pwns like crazy...im perfectly cool

Reavers FTW still!!!

[capthavic]

It will be great on maps with cliffs and/or against the zerg. Being vulnerable to both ground and air just makes sense and you wouldn't want to send them out alone anyway.

[capthavic]

It will be great on maps with cliffs and/or against the zerg. Being vulnerable to both ground and air just makes sense and you wouldn't want to send them out alone anyway.

[Itsmyship]

Eh, that's true, I guess it won't too bad, I can see it being the toss version of a siege tank. Btw, I wasn't complaining that it could be attacked from anti air and ground, cuz to me that just shows some damn good balance

[paragon]

Is that a dragoon in the first picture? Wtf?

Yes, that's definitely a dragoon. And definitely a carrier. And definitely reavers that actually look like reavers instead of what the starcraft 2 reavers are.

edit: and corsairs are also there
also, the marines in that screenshot don't have shields and look much better without them.

[FlyingTiger]

Is that a dragoon in the first picture?  Wtf? 

Yes, that's definitely a dragoon. And definitely a carrier. And definitely reavers that actually look like reavers instead of what the starcraft 2 reavers are.

edit: and corsairs are also there
also, the marines in that screenshot don't have shields and look much better without them.


haha i definetly agree with ya.

lol wtf. The marines have no shield??? does this mean its an upgrade?? geeez or will there be no shield ^_^

[paragon]

lol wtf. The marines have no shield??? does this mean its an upgrade?? geeez or will there be no shield ^_^

I'm betting the shield will be an upgrade. The zealot and zergling already have a confirmed new thing so it's only logically to give the marine something too.

[MrFrancko]

lol wtf. The marines have no shield??? does this mean its an upgrade?? geeez or will there be no shield ^_^

I'm betting the shield will be an upgrade. The zealot and zergling already have a confirmed new thing so it's only logically to give the marine something too.

Sounds about right. No reason to have them start out with them. I don't mind how they look with the shield anyways. They just look more like riot police.

Also, I don't get why they have a picture of a new unit with a bunch of old units?

[paragon]

I think it's just concept art that was made before they decided to ax just about every unit there.

[MrFrancko]

Ah, I guess that would make sense. RIP for those units, right?

[paragon]

RIP for those units, right?

Indeed. In fact, two are even in my sig ha

[zeratul11]

that screenshot is awesome! now i really wanna play it. yes i see corsiars and carriers everywhere. or are those not carriers. anyway maybe they still have few old units left but are not use in wars anymore in starcraft 2.

omg! the environment for starcraft owns. the terrains, trees, etc looks promising.

[WuHT]

that screenshot is awesome! now i really wanna play it. yes i see corsiars and carriers everywhere. or are those not carriers. anyway maybe they still have few old units left but are not use in wars anymore in starcraft 2.

omg! the environment for starcraft owns. the terrains, trees, etc looks promising.

Never really looked at the background in screenshots (you're supposed to wow at the colossi) but they look awesome without looking too "small" like the slower RTS out there. The foilage looks great (much much ++ better than w3)..the tile set is alright (cuz w3 had already decent tiles).

I like how siege tanks/marines dont have shadows.(in the non rotated screenshot).and i bet they'll look better when they do :). Strangely in the rotated screenshot (colossi on the top of the screen) some of the marines have shdows that look normal now ...empahsis that they are puny?

[[LightMare]]

those things are super sexy. they have pylon crystals under them ftw!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[burkid]

Is that a dragoon in the first picture? Wtf?

Yes, that's definitely a dragoon. And definitely a carrier. And definitely reavers that actually look like reavers instead of what the starcraft 2 reavers are.

edit: and corsairs are also there
also, the marines in that screenshot don't have shields and look much better without them.

i think those axed units are there because if you read the history thing on the colossus, it says they were decommissioned after this one war, so the pitcure might be from that war.

[Ghost]

Is that a dragoon in the first picture? Wtf?

Yes, that's definitely a dragoon. And definitely a carrier. And definitely reavers that actually look like reavers instead of what the starcraft 2 reavers are.

edit: and corsairs are also there
also, the marines in that screenshot don't have shields and look much better without them.

i think those axed units are there because if you read the history thing on the colossus, it says they were decommissioned after this one war, so the pitcure might be from that war.


Wise words.

[burkid]

why thank you :)

[MrFrancko]

Burk = Far better at Lore than I.

[burkid]

i love getting good responses :)

[PrivateJoker]

NICE find. ;)

[Amaranto]

The colossus looks really cool. Looking forward to try one out :)

[[LightMare]]

Is that a dragoon in the first picture? Wtf?

Yes, that's definitely a dragoon. And definitely a carrier. And definitely reavers that actually look like reavers instead of what the starcraft 2 reavers are.

edit: and corsairs are also there
also, the marines in that screenshot don't have shields and look much better without them.

i think those axed units are there because if you read the history thing on the colossus, it says they were decommissioned after this one war, so the pitcure might be from that war.

the marines don't have shields because they do not have the upgrade yet. it's an upgrade to get shields remember?

[burkid]

yeah, sheilds and bayonets.

[paragon]

Is that a dragoon in the first picture? Wtf?

Yes, that's definitely a dragoon. And definitely a carrier. And definitely reavers that actually look like reavers instead of what the starcraft 2 reavers are.

edit: and corsairs are also there
also, the marines in that screenshot don't have shields and look much better without them.

i think those axed units are there because if you read the history thing on the colossus, it says they were decommissioned after this one war, so the pitcure might be from that war.

Or the person who did the concept art made it in an early stage of development before they axed anything so thats why there are axed units in it. And that what you said about it is just a good after the fact statement.

[Piretes]

Looking good, very good... Anyone else notice the double ledges? Check the pic..

[Malicus]

Way cool unit, totally reminds me of War of the Worlds in almost every way, especially the part how they are buried deep in asteriods and on moons. I think they did well on this unit, the panning viewport in the front that looks around is really neat. I really wish the bases moved as well, same with the Immortals and Stalkers and old school Dragoons. The legs always point in the same direction, that always annoyed me.

The terrian looks really amazing! You can see blades of grass as he is walking across the field and there appears to be multipule stories on those temples. I wonder how high you can make those structures. The graphics are more crisp looking than WC3, and the trees look alot better as well. Also looks like the Robotics Facility is back as well, and most likely the Reaver for sure, since they mention it in the description.

Notice the Marines have backpack units of some-sort? Also I am pretty sure the shields are an upgrade for the Marine as well. It would be awsome if it was just like Level 3 armor or something, cause that would be sick if it changed how your units looked as you upgraded. :good:


All in all, good job Blizzard!

[LoserInLosing]

Arghh MArines shields/ Siege Tanks horrible.... What have they done???? Protoss is lookin betta than eva..

That pic those Dragoons could be stalkers that really look like dragoons, or they just put dragoons but they wont be comin back... thats for sure. Reavers are back which is da best relief eva!

[MyWifeforauir]

i was wondering how was blizzard going to add this unit into the storyline and poof new lore :) I wonder if there are anymore stuff the protoss left on random planets like the colossus

[proswimma]

i think they will be able to add it into the story line very easily (you know blizzard) they will probably put in a mission where you have to scout and asteroid for them but you run into the zerg or terran and then you have to fight it out with them.

[DontHate]

cool. A unit only meant for killing eh? sounds interesting.

[paragon]

That pic those Dragoons could be stalkers that really look like dragoons, or they just put dragoons but they wont be comin back... thats for sure. Reavers are back which is da best relief eva!

No it's definitely a dragoon.
And the reavers don't look near as cool as they used to.

[ImaGiNe.]

Way cool unit, totally reminds me of War of the Worlds in almost every way, especially the part how they are buried deep in asteriods and on moons. I think they did well on this unit, the panning viewport in the front that looks around is really neat. I really wish the bases moved as well, same with the Immortals and Stalkers and old school Dragoons. The legs always point in the same direction, that always annoyed me.
To be honest, I think it would be hilarious if the Colossus's lasers made the enemies clothes pop off and float down to the earth (like in WOTW! LOL!)

The Colossus is an insane hulking murderer, did you see how fast it ripped through that group of unlucky marines? And since it can be attacked by anti-air, I believe Goliath production is now in order.

[Nikzad]

I don't like the armor-y shell-ness of the new reaver

but I love the look of the colossus. I couldn't understand what the unit was saying when I clicked on the sound button on the unit page...I can't remember...is it a robotic unit or does it have a driver inside?

[FlyingTiger]

It says its a robotic unit and will be built in the Robotics Facility so i'm thinking no to the driver.

[ImaGiNe.]

The colossus is unusual for the fact that it was created purely as a war machine. Most protoss robots are created for industrial or resource-gathering purposes.

So what FlyingTiger says is true.

[burkid]

Looking good, very good... Anyone else notice the double ledges? Check the pic..

yeah i saw that too. i think that they can only step up 1 level at a time though.

[FlyingTiger]

Looking good, very good... Anyone else notice the double ledges? Check the pic..

yeah i saw that too. i think that they can only step up 1 level at a time though.


yea that's right... just watch that in game footage. I wonder hows its gonna warp into the battlefield by the robotics facility.

[burkid]

Looking good, very good... Anyone else notice the double ledges? Check the pic..

yeah i saw that too. i think that they can only step up 1 level at a time though.


yea that's right... just watch that in game footage. I wonder hows its gonna warp into the battlefield by the robotics facility.

it probably wont.

[Nikzad]

I just imagined what it would look like once they spawned...because I hope they're not gonna just have the unit appear next to the building

I'm getting my hopes up but anyway

it would be cool if it spawned and it was sorta crouched and when it completed production, it would stand up and tower over the building that just built it

[paragon]

I couldn't understand what the unit was saying when I clicked on the sound button on the unit page...

The second word sounded like zerg. Slaughter zerg maybe? It's definately heavily distorted though.


it would be cool if it spawned and it was sorta crouched and when it completed production, it would stand up and tower over the building that just built it

That'd be cool.

[MrFrancko]

I def. believe that units will have an animation when they are created. Just take a look at the warp gate. It expands to allow the new unit to fit and then warps it in. I would assume that this is true for all units, or at least most.

[Highjustice]

Am I the only one that thinks that all the Colossi in all the concept art Blizz has put out are missing a leg? haha. They all look like tripods to me, but the actual unit is a quadruped. I guess Blizzard got burned out on the whole War of the Worlds tripod reference that they have already used several times in WoW :P

[Decna12]

I just realized....a lot of the new units for protoss are dark templar like. Tempest (darker version of the carrier), Stalker (dark Dragoon), phase cannaon....don't know about that, but maybe it was created by the darker protoss and Soul hunter (a weird but powerful reaver prototype). It's good to see the dark templar realized for there prowess. That's is why they are so O.P :o

[Highjustice]

I just realized....a lot of the new units for protoss are dark templar like. Tempest (darker version of the carrier), Stalker (dark Dragoon), phase cannaon....don't know about that, but maybe it was created by the darker protoss and Soul hunter (a weird but powerful reaver prototype). It's good to see the dark templar realized for there prowess. That's is why they are so O.P :o


It seems to me this shows the acceptance of the dark templar and their "forbidden" power into a more mainstream of protoss civilization. You see a lot of that type of influence in the SC2 units. Instead of blind zealotry (WARNING: PUN) they are becoming more open minded out of necessity. There is probably a little of the dark templar power in a lot of their new technology.

[MrFrancko]

That and after Auir was destroyed that wasn't a whole of original high templar-like stuff left.

[paragon]

I think there will still always be tension between the dark templar and khala protoss.

[Malicus]

No way! They should burst up from beneath the ground with lighting shooting into them from the sky! :thumbup:

I think Raynor should be replaced by Tom Cruise also. ::)

[[LightMare]]

owned in the face to those who said too many lasers. Thermal Lance pwns you!

[burkid]

owned in the face to those who said too many lasers. Thermal Lance pwns you!

amen to that

[MrFrancko]

owned in the face to those who said too many lasers. Thermal Lance pwns you!

I want a thermal lance...

[paragon]

So its a heat ray... that isn't War of the Worlds at all...................

[burkid]

So its a heat ray... that isn't War of the Worlds at all...................

well, according to the book it was a heat ray, but it doesnt follow the movie.

[paragon]

So its a heat ray... that isn't War of the Worlds at all...................

well, according to the book it was a heat ray, but it doesnt follow the movie.

the actual movie had a heat ray
the ****ty remake did not. being a ****ty remake it does not count.

[burkid]

So its a heat ray... that isn't War of the Worlds at all...................

well, according to the book it was a heat ray, but it doesnt follow the movie.

the actual movie had a heat ray
the ****ty remake did not. being a ****ty remake it does not count.

eh. i can live with that

[Protoss Kills Infinitely]

its just the colossus its cool 8)
i don't give a damn what people think about it its a good unit people should like it not argue/hate about it


[img=http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3294/colossuskillingterranunhl9.th.jpg][/url]

it totally ROCKS!!!

[paragon]

Wonder how long it would take one of those to kill a tank. And would the tank kill it first...

[burkid]

Wonder how long it would take one of those to kill a tank. And would the tank kill it first...

hmm... well the tank does a ton of damage per shot, but the colossus has a continuous attack... i think id have to give it to the colossus (320 shield/400 health)

[paragon]

Wonder how long it would take one of those to kill a tank. And would the tank kill it first...

hmm... well the tank does a ton of damage per shot, but the colossus has a continuous attack... i think id have to give it to the colossus (320 shield/400 health)

Unless the tank is stronger this go around.

[burkid]

thats possible

[MrFrancko]

Wonder how long it would take one of those to kill a tank. And would the tank kill it first...

hmm... well the tank does a ton of damage per shot, but the colossus has a continuous attack... i think id have to give it to the colossus (320 shield/400 health)

Unless the tank is stronger this go around.


The tank definitely didn't look stronger this time around. It got torn through in the protoss gameplay video.

[paragon]

Wonder how long it would take one of those to kill a tank. And would the tank kill it first...

hmm... well the tank does a ton of damage per shot, but the colossus has a continuous attack... i think id have to give it to the colossus (320 shield/400 health)

Unless the tank is stronger this go around.


The tank definitely didn't look stronger this time around. It got torn through in the protoss gameplay video.

Yeah thats true. Guess the colossi will just be weak to air and lockdown.

[eclipse]

it seems everything protoss besides zealots are weak to lockdown xP

[paragon]

it seems everything protoss besides zealots are weak to lockdown xP

Thats because they are a bunch of techie bastards. Lockdown and EMP.

[burkid]

it seems everything protoss besides zealots are weak to lockdown xP

Thats because they are a bunch of techie bastards. Lockdown and EMP.

the bane of protoss

[ImaGiNe.]

I just thought of another question for the colossus since it is a behemoth on the field. Would the colossus be able to target air units? That would be sweet, though I heavily doubt it.

[burkid]

I just thought of another question for the colossus since it is a behemoth on the field. Would the colossus be able to target air units? That would be sweet, though I heavily doubt it.

so far as we know, no

[paragon]

I just thought of another question for the colossus since it is a behemoth on the field. Would the colossus be able to target air units? That would be sweet, though I heavily doubt it.

so far as we know, no

Serious design flaw if you ask me. Another low bid contractor just like the tempest?

[burkid]

I just thought of another question for the colossus since it is a behemoth on the field. Would the colossus be able to target air units? That would be sweet, though I heavily doubt it.

so far as we know, no

Serious design flaw if you ask me. Another low bid contractor just like the tempest?

no, this one isnt made by the dark templar.
blame aldaris.

[paragon]

no, this one isnt made by the dark templar.
blame aldaris.

I bet he was the penny pusher back then when they were invented.

[burkid]

I just thought of another question for the colossus since it is a behemoth on the field. Would the colossus be able to target air units? That would be sweet, though I heavily doubt it.

so far as we know, no

Serious design flaw if you ask me. Another low bid contractor just like the tempest?

no, this one isnt made by the dark templar.
blame aldaris.

I bet he was the penny pusher back then when they were invented.

i wouldnt be suprised. aldaris is a *****.

[paragon]

Colossus: WHERE IS MY AIR SUPPORT
Aldairs: Ah f**k and I thought it wouldn't need to attack air
Tassadar: ALDARIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[burkid]

Colossus: WHERE IS MY AIR SUPPORT
Aldairs: Ah f**k and I thought it wouldn't need to attack air
Tassadar: ALDARIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i love how pissed tassadar gets at aldaris in the briefings. i think one time when they are talking it should go:

Tassadar "We must side with the dark templar to defeat the--"

Aldaris "side with the dark ones! thats heresy!"

Tassadar "SILENCE! Anyways, ive learned much from the prelate, zer--"

Aldaris "You have dammed yourself tassadar. To think, you were our most beloved son, our brightest hope and now--"

Tassadar "I SAID SHUT UP!"

*Psi Assaults Aldaris*
*Aldaris is knocked unconscious*

Tassadar "THANK ADUN! As i was saying..."

[starcraft2iscoming]

Maby dragoons will be campian units for SC2, along with carriers.

[paragon]

Maby dragoons will be campian units for SC2, along with carriers.

That'd be really really cool.
But, if there aren't, there's always the Project Revolution models.

[burkid]

Maby dragoons will be campian units for SC2, along with carriers.

that would be pretty sweet. its not like they are all gone.

[opm]

can't wait to be an absolutely abusive ass with collosi drops on minerals, muahahaha.

drop, kill and run to the next minerals before my enemy can get units there. just so mint.

I wonder how much damage it does to structures.

[burkid]

can't wait to be an absolutely abusive ass with collosi drops on minerals, muahahaha.

drop, kill and run to the next minerals before my enemy can get units there. just so mint.

I wonder how much damage it does to structures.

doubt you will be able to fit a colossus in a phase prism, and you probably wont be able to warp colossi in. stick with reavers.

[MrFrancko]

can't wait to be an absolutely abusive ass with collosi drops on minerals, muahahaha.

drop, kill and run to the next minerals before my enemy can get units there. just so mint.

I wonder how much damage it does to structures.

doubt you will be able to fit a colossus in a phase prism, and you probably wont be able to warp colossi in. stick with reavers.

I dunno, you may be able to get one into a phase prism but even if you can't the colossus can get over any terrain that might be in it's way.

[Proxy-serva]

hmm.. iam wondering how it looks when a big big colossus come out of a small "house" [i dont know the word for this..]

[paragon]

Perhaps the phase prisms store the units as a form of energy so then it would be able to fit a colossus inside of it.

[burkid]

that is entirely possible

EDIT: yes thats what they do
http://starcraft2.com/features/protoss/

[paragon]

Figured as much what with those zealots turning into energy for a split second. So now I wonder if the capacity of the phase prism is greater than that of the shuttle (like how a zealot took up two spaces just like a goliath in a dropship) maybe they only take up 1 now.
So:
Probe - 1
Zealot - 1
Dark Templar - 1
Stalker - 2
Immortal - 4
Reaver - 4
Colossus - 8

with a max capacity of 8.

[burkid]

it could be either that or an increased capacity, like max of 10 or 16, with the colossus taking up the majority (if not all) of that space. if it were only to take up say 12 of 16 you could put some zealots or stalkers in for support.

[paragon]

Well, it's at least as much as the shuttle because two of them unload four zealots each in the beginning of the video.

[burkid]

yeah that would be 8 in normal terms. i guess we will have to wait and see.

[starcraft2iscoming]

Maby dragoons will be campian units for SC2, along with carriers.

That'd be really really cool.
But, if there aren't, there's always the Project Revolution models.
But isnt the Project Revolution Warcraft 3 modles? Can you still put the modles in other games?

[paragon]

They are in .max and .3ds format too which means they will be able to be converted to starcraft 2 models given the fact that there will be art tools for starcraft 2.

[Proxy-serva]

Maybe thereis an upgrade for the dropships to 16

[paragon]

16 is probably a bit excessive. maybe 10 or at the most 12.

[Proxy-serva]

12 is good!! I dont think you make an upgrade for 2 more units place..

[paragon]

well adding 2 more marines to each dropship would let you add 12 more with just 6 dropships.

[DontHate]

I wouldn't think a collosus could be put in a phase prism, becuase it's an "air/ground" unit. And you can't put air units in a phase prysm, but that's just my 2 cents.

[paragon]

well they still demolecularize it and stuff it in the crystal computer so anything is possible