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overmind
06-29-2007, 07:58 AM
now everybody remembers blowing up those annoying flying things on shakura but what if their were natives that actually had a society? like they can build workers and soldiers etc. non playable except in special game mode.
seriously in the entire galaxy only three races are sentient(and zerg at a stretch) theirs more different cultures if you look out the window.
paragon
06-29-2007, 08:27 PM
In the StarCraft manual it said that the Protoss were stewards protecting a bunch of races or something like that. But these races were not very advanced (pre spaceflight possibly)
Besides, for Shakuras, if there were any natives there, the xel'naga temple took care of them.
[LightMare]
06-29-2007, 09:42 PM
i love he bengalaas. imagine a society of Bengalaas! *gasp*
paragon
06-29-2007, 09:55 PM
i love he bengalaas. imagine a society of Bengalaas! *gasp*
I think he was talking about intelligent races, not animals.
MrFrancko
06-29-2007, 10:04 PM
ha, I could see some natives coming out of the woods to attack you and not knowing what hit them.
paragon
06-29-2007, 10:21 PM
ha, I could see some natives coming out of the woods to attack you and not knowing what hit them.
They would have like 2 hp and 1 attack and have bows and arrows. Hey thats just like what a night elf archer would be like.
[LightMare]
06-29-2007, 10:26 PM
ha, I could see some natives coming out of the woods to attack you and not knowing what hit them.
They would have like 2 hp and 1 attack and have bows and arrows. Hey thats just like what a night elf archer would be like.
much stronger than that
paragon
06-29-2007, 10:31 PM
you wish. it wears a cloth for armor. It has an exposed midriff, arms, legs, etc...
[LightMare]
06-29-2007, 10:57 PM
they can climb trees, and go for a ride on a hippogryph's back
paragon
06-29-2007, 11:44 PM
So then the marines could have a blast shooting at big bird.
MrFrancko
06-29-2007, 11:53 PM
Or just have a tank "remove" the said tree with the elf in it...
paragon
06-30-2007, 12:09 AM
Or just have a tank "remove" the said tree with the elf in it...
haha yeah.
That'd be kinda cool if they could do that in game.
[LightMare]
06-30-2007, 12:19 AM
or have a chimaera kill said tank
paragon
06-30-2007, 01:06 AM
Is it that you like WC3 so much or do you just want to be contradictive?
SirBaron
06-30-2007, 04:55 AM
Well it would seem as blizzard are finally inventing some new races for StarCraft *points at the Kalathi*
[LightMare]
06-30-2007, 05:38 AM
Is it that you like WC3 so much or do you just want to be contradictive?
a little bit of both :P
paragon
06-30-2007, 01:29 PM
Well it would seem as blizzard are finally inventing some new races for StarCraft *points at the Kalathi*
They always "had" other races that the Protoss watched over. And I think the Kalathi are probably mostly dead/all dead/too far dead to be worried about
Is it that you like WC3 so much or do you just want to be contradictive?
a little bit of both :P
Well WC3 sucks ass.
thiefingdude
07-01-2007, 01:35 AM
Bah, I wanna play as Xel 'Nagas or the Hybrids!!!
paragon
07-01-2007, 02:05 AM
Bah, I wanna play as Xel 'Nagas or the Hybrids!!!
You think you do but really you don't.
burkid
07-01-2007, 07:38 AM
Bah, I wanna play as Xel 'Nagas or the Hybrids!!!
You think you do but really you don't.
it would be like playing as the naga in WC3, youd get 4 buildings and 6 units.
Lord David
07-01-2007, 02:40 PM
It would be nice to see some minor races in the campaigns, maybe the Xel'Naga? Maybe a humanoid species? Maybe several new alien species? Pre "warp" species? (Where you have maps in which a major species has colonized a planet, you come to fight them, and those affected are the indigenous species of that planet) :)
paragon
07-01-2007, 04:11 PM
Sure seeing some new ones would be fine. As long as we just get to slaughter them.
SirBaron
07-01-2007, 04:15 PM
It was always really odd to see so many habitable planets yet so few sentient species. I think Blizz should change that (maybe they are, judging from their lore on the Kalathi)
paragon
07-01-2007, 04:30 PM
Well for the zerg infested planets, everyone there was probably killed.
Then there was auir, braxis (which was also protoss), and shakuras (also protoss)
And the rest were the terran worlds. And maybe the confederacy killed any natives.
Lord David
07-01-2007, 04:31 PM
Sure seeing some new ones would be fine. As long as we just get to slaughter them.
Oh no, it will all depend on the story. For example, if you are doing the Terran Campaign and the story states that a planet if full of a humanoid species, the story could possibly follow where you would probably need to eradicate them in order to say get to your opponents the Protoss, (If we assume that the Dominion don't have a non interference directive ;)) or maybe if your the Protoss, you might want to ally with the local inhabitants who have some knowledge about the Zerg in the area... or something like that.
Basically it would be more than just mindless killing (which would be pointless and costly if your main opponent(s) are tough), likewise, if you were to engage a neutral race or ally, they could turn against you and maybe ally with your opponents to make for a more tougher map and possible change in story...
burkid
07-01-2007, 04:33 PM
Sure seeing some new ones would be fine. As long as we just get to slaughter them.
Oh no, it will all depend on the story. For example, if you are doing the Terran Campaign and the story states that a planet if full of a humanoid species, the story could possibly follow where you would probably need to eradicate them in order to say get to your opponents the Protoss, (If we assume that the Dominion don't have a non interference directive ;)) or maybe if your the Protoss, you might want to ally with the local inhabitants who have some knowledge about the Zerg in the area... or something like that.
Basically it would be more than just mindless killing (which would be pointless and costly if your main opponent(s) are tough), likewise, if you were to engage a neutral race or ally, they could turn against you and maybe ally with your opponents to make for a more tougher map and possible change in story...
mindlessly killing is fun though!
Lord David
07-01-2007, 04:40 PM
Sure seeing some new ones would be fine. As long as we just get to slaughter them.
Oh no, it will all depend on the story. For example, if you are doing the Terran Campaign and the story states that a planet if full of a humanoid species, the story could possibly follow where you would probably need to eradicate them in order to say get to your opponents the Protoss, (If we assume that the Dominion don't have a non interference directive ;)) or maybe if your the Protoss, you might want to ally with the local inhabitants who have some knowledge about the Zerg in the area... or something like that.
Basically it would be more than just mindless killing (which would be pointless and costly if your main opponent(s) are tough), likewise, if you were to engage a neutral race or ally, they could turn against you and maybe ally with your opponents to make for a more tougher map and possible change in story...
mindlessly killing is fun though!
Sure, but do you wanna risk gaining another opponent just for you fun killing spree? Sure, a pre-warp civilization is of very little threat (or are they? just look at the Zerg as an example, surely sword wielding warriors and catapults can be threatening too :P), but then again a civilization of similar planetary capabilities as the Terran (no spaceships, just air vessels and ground units) can be a great threat. Plus it could also effect the possible story too.
Oh what am I saying, I'm sure any good player can easily overcome a new opponent if they arise, even if it could dramatically change the course of the story...
paragon
07-01-2007, 04:41 PM
The only ones with a non interference directive are the Protoss (generally, see: Kalathi Intercession)
The Dominion probably definitely wont. Raynor wouldn't kill them cause it would be mean. And the Zerg would wipe over them without a single thought.
burkid
07-01-2007, 04:42 PM
Sure seeing some new ones would be fine. As long as we just get to slaughter them.
Oh no, it will all depend on the story. For example, if you are doing the Terran Campaign and the story states that a planet if full of a humanoid species, the story could possibly follow where you would probably need to eradicate them in order to say get to your opponents the Protoss, (If we assume that the Dominion don't have a non interference directive ;)) or maybe if your the Protoss, you might want to ally with the local inhabitants who have some knowledge about the Zerg in the area... or something like that.
Basically it would be more than just mindless killing (which would be pointless and costly if your main opponent(s) are tough), likewise, if you were to engage a neutral race or ally, they could turn against you and maybe ally with your opponents to make for a more tougher map and possible change in story...
mindlessly killing is fun though!
Sure, but do you wanna risk gaining another opponent just for you fun killing spree? Sure, a pre-warp civilization is of very little threat (or are they? just look at the Zerg as an example, surely sword wielding warriors and catapults can be threatening too :P), but then again a civilization of similar planetary capabilities as the Terran (no spaceships, just air vessels and ground units) can be a great threat. Plus it could also effect the possible story too.
Oh what am I saying, I'm sure any good player can easily overcome a new opponent if they arise, even if it could dramatically change the course of the story...
...zerg have warp.
paragon
07-01-2007, 04:55 PM
Also according to some people on this board footmen can beat marines.
burkid
07-01-2007, 04:57 PM
Also according to some people on this board footmen can beat marines.
which is a pretty dumb statement, a gauss rifle could shoot straight through them. and if the footies use defend, they would get killed faster because the round from the gauss would go through the shield, then the armor, then through the footie.
paragon
07-01-2007, 05:00 PM
Yes, at that speed of an impact, steel basically vaporizes.
SirBaron
07-01-2007, 05:01 PM
Well for the zerg infested planets, everyone there was probably killed.
Then there was auir, braxis (which was also protoss), and shakuras (also protoss)
And the rest were the terran worlds. And maybe the confederacy killed any natives.
Maybe. Although i find it more likely that the Protoss exterminated the minor races. It just seems they are capable and have the resources to destroy life planet-wide on such a scale.
burkid
07-01-2007, 05:02 PM
Please only quote something if you are referring to it directly.
Maybe. Although i find it more likely that the Protoss exterminated the minor races. It just seems they are capable and have the resources to destroy life planet-wide on such a scale.
if they did that, what would they be stewarding?
paragon
07-01-2007, 05:54 PM
Yeah, this is from the Protoss history in the SC manual:
"In keeping with the strict codes of the Khala, the Protoss took upon themselves the burden of the Dae’Uhl, or ‘Great Stewardship’. Following the ancient traditions of the Xel’Naga, the Dae’Uhl called for the Protoss to protect and safeguard the lesser races that lived under their shadow. Unlike their predecessors, however, the Protoss refused to manipulate or interfere in the evolutionary processes of the lesser races under their protection. Ever vigilant against xenomorphic threats, the Protoss kept a close watch over their unsuspecting wards. But, much like the Xel’Naga many millennia before, the Protoss kept their presence hidden from the lesser races in their care. Many hundreds of species grew and thrived on the various worlds within their space, never knowing that they were secretly guarded from on high."
SirBaron
07-01-2007, 06:01 PM
Please only quote something if you are referring to it directly.
if they did that, what would they be stewarding?
True. Although i think it would be too costly for the Terrans to just mass up nukes and bombard planets like Korhal IV every time they disagreed with a minor race. Also... out of a colonisation point of view it would be insanely stupid to nuke a planet to smithereens in order to rid it of it's natives to make colonisation possible.
burkid
07-01-2007, 06:03 PM
Please do not quote the entire post you are replying to.
exactly, you cant colonize a nuclear waste. unless your name is Acturus Mengsk and its the only place you belong.
and nuking the planet would also destroy its resources.
paragon
07-01-2007, 06:16 PM
Thats why you use battlecruisers to rain down overwhelming fire.
burkid
07-01-2007, 06:17 PM
Please do not quote the entire post you are replying to.
orbital bombardment! i like it. saves most of the resources and killes the people
SirBaron
07-01-2007, 06:19 PM
Capital ships forming in orbit works, sure, but it doesn't assure annihilation like nuke do. Besides, an armada of Battlecruisers... that's costly.
burkid
07-01-2007, 06:20 PM
like in the gameplay vid where the guy says an armada of 3 BCs is a large fleet.
paragon
07-01-2007, 06:20 PM
Well they already have the battlecruisers so they don't have to build more. Plus you can always do a sweep with wraiths. And if you really want to, drop some goliaths and marines and tanks in afterwards.
paragon
07-01-2007, 08:48 PM
As long as the aliens are protecting us and not interfering, I wouldn't mind.
MrFrancko
07-01-2007, 10:39 PM
I'm surprised the terrans don't use mass drivers. It's a cheap and effective way to decimate a planet, especially if that planet has a moon. You could just set up on the moon and launch massive rocks down at the planet.
paragon
07-01-2007, 11:17 PM
A gauss rifle is a mass driver. It's just a smaller mass.
overmind
07-07-2007, 02:56 AM
I'm surprised the terrans don't use mass drivers. It's a cheap and effective way to decimate a planet, especially if that planet has a moon. You could just set up on the moon and launch massive rocks down at the planet.
becouse it wouldn't work in game
the zerg bring smaller races into the swarm how about a mission were terran is trying to kill the species of a planet so they can't help the zerg all the while fighting zerg and the toss who are trying to protect the race?
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