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ImaGiNe.
06-29-2007, 02:23 PM
Now that the Protoss are armed with a new way to deploy units via pylon aura/phase prism, will there still be a need for recall? Would there still be a need for an arbiter airship? With Protoss gaining these previously unseen (new) units that look to be strong contenders on the battlefield, would it be fair with an arbiter cloaking hulking colossi, a mothership, and other heavy hitting units?
So many questions and so many new additions, I seriously doubt that we will be seeing the Protoss Arbiter in StarCraft 2. Your thoughts on it?
FlyingTiger
06-29-2007, 03:14 PM
Now that the Protoss are armed with a new way to deploy units via pylon aura/phase prism, will there still be a need for recall? Would there still be a need for an arbiter airship? With Protoss gaining these previously unseen (new) units that look to be strong contenders on the battlefield, would it be fair with an arbiter cloaking hulking colossi, a mothership, and other heavy hitting units?
So many questions and so many new additions, I seriously doubt that we will be seeing the Protoss Arbiter in StarCraft 2. Your thoughts on it?
haha haven't you heard of the star relic? It's almost just like the arbiter. The star relic is an air spell caster with an ability to cloak units and buildings.
ImaGiNe.
06-29-2007, 03:15 PM
haha haven't you heard of the star relic? It's almost just like the arbiter. The star relic is an air spell caster with an ability to cloak units and buildings.
I have heard of it my flying friend, which is the reason why I posted this topic.
FlyingTiger
06-29-2007, 03:20 PM
yea so I seriously doubt the arbiter will come back to SC2. So the star relic would be able to cloak those hulking colossi, a mothership, and other heavy hitting units. I mean if they could cloak buildings, they can cloak those big units.
Plus if someone is doing planet cracker on ya when its invisible and you see a star relic... then it just takes common sense to know what to do.
paragon
06-29-2007, 05:39 PM
Wouldn't you see the planet cracker lasers of the mothership if is is cloaked anyways? You always saw the wraith lasers when they were cloaked.
I don't think they would have recall because they have Warp In and while not being the same, it is a similar mechanic.
Tym29
07-03-2007, 12:39 AM
Im going to miss The Arbiter and Recall. That was such an awesome ability. The star relic looks a little too froofy to me.
DontHate
07-03-2007, 12:42 AM
g'bye my arbiter friend. i loved htat guy so much :(
paragon
07-03-2007, 02:26 AM
yeah who wants to cloak buildings anyways...
burkid
07-03-2007, 02:33 AM
with the star relic, is cloak passive like the arbiter or do you have to activate the field? because in one of the pictures from PC gamer, there is a big protoss vs protoss fight, both with a MS and in the top right corner there are 2 star relics and nothing around them is cloaked
paragon
07-03-2007, 02:46 AM
maybe it was an early pic. or maybe it does have to be activated (this would suck if it costs energy). early pics of arbiters didn't cloak anything.
burkid
07-03-2007, 02:47 AM
i really hope that cloaking is passive.
Im going to miss The Arbiter and Recall. That was such an awesome ability. The star relic looks a little too froofy to me.
yeah it was my favorite, non zerg unit and hopefully the adjudicators have moved on to bigger and better ships.
FlyingTiger
07-03-2007, 02:57 PM
oh man i'm gonna be upset if you need energy to cloak units/buildings. ick!
Maybe the star relic has a smaller cloaking field?
ImaGiNe.
07-03-2007, 03:00 PM
i really hope that cloaking is passive.
It is possible that it will not be passive, It appears that the Star Relic has an ability called Hide.
If the Arbiter is removed, then I can only hope that the Star Relic is a worthwhile replacement. Good bye stasis field and recall.
Fenix
07-03-2007, 04:16 PM
I thought the Twilight Archon has a Stasis Field dealie.
UchihaItachi0129
07-03-2007, 04:32 PM
why must they kill my arbiter? T_T i loved statsising their army and then recall and just sitting there and wait until their army unfreezes and BOOM insta-kill XD or just stasis the army and walk into their base with little or no defense at all T_T i'll miss you arbiter
R.I.P.
Here lies the Arbiter
He was the ownage unit. So powerful it got the boot. T_T
Light
07-03-2007, 04:36 PM
lol...devoted fan of the arbiter u are, uchi.
@ fenix, no, not the archon, the high templar now has an ability to ''create barriers''. it duznt stasis units, it just creates a wall that is like stasis, cannot be destroyed and goes away after som time. im not worried bout arbiters, star relics are basicly it. but ill still miss it.
LimaBeanMage
07-03-2007, 05:39 PM
R.I.P Arbiter...
I like the name of the star relic, it sounds mysterious and ancient. Though, I would put my money on the idea that star relics don't need energy to cloak units, but buildings on the other hand could have an energy requirement to cloak. Or at least I hope they don't take energy to cloak units.
Star relic uses energy to cloak army. Science vessel uncloaks army for free. Star relic continues to waste energy. (True story)
paragon
07-03-2007, 10:55 PM
Where did it say that star relics require energy to cloak things?
LimaBeanMage
07-04-2007, 02:33 AM
They didn't, but it just seems like something that has a slight chance of happening and would also make us rather frustrated. I don't think it's that odd of an idea, though. Suddenly this new unit can cloak not only units, but buildings too. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a drawback to that kind of power, maybe not energy but some sort cost.
paragon
07-04-2007, 02:39 AM
Cloaking buildings is nice but it's not that great because cloaking still leaves that distorted ground where the cloaked unit is. And this means you will have a big *** distortion where a building is.
burkid
07-04-2007, 04:39 AM
haha cloaked phase cannon ambush.
paragon
07-04-2007, 05:04 AM
only person that could ambush is someone who wasn't paying any attention to begin with. So little attention that pretty much any visible units could have also ambushed them.
rezraf
07-08-2007, 01:19 AM
Well yes i will also miss the arbiter but the star relic and its laser boom ability sounds good to me and it will also cloak the units i know its not the arbiter but well is an a poor substitute lol
DontHate
07-08-2007, 01:23 AM
i just like the name of arbiter better than star relic. oh well.
FlyingTiger
07-08-2007, 01:58 AM
yea me too. Arbiter is a much much better name. Oh well. This star relic better live up to high expectations.
paragon
07-09-2007, 11:14 PM
star relic is a rather odd name. Relic implies that it is really really really old.... like a star. arbiter is a nice name although changing the unit but keeping the name would cause confusion so it is best to change the name too. there could be worse names after all *cough* soul hunter *cough*
ImaGiNe.
07-09-2007, 11:31 PM
Haha! Very true paragon! I do not think an object (the relic part) should even be a unit...
supersonic159
07-09-2007, 11:50 PM
I'm not saying that they do or don't need energy to cloak units (Star Relic) but it just wouldn't make sense if these new units couldn't cloak w/o energy and the old Arbiters could...
I am also disturbed by the picture with the "non cloaked" Protoss units in it right next to the Star Relic so it's not totally out of the question...
The idea for cloaking buildings requiring energy is good because I would much rather have to use energy to cloak my buildings then my units. So cloaking buildings costs energy and cloaking units is free (like the Arbiter) is fine with me.
DontHate
07-10-2007, 12:14 AM
what? where is the picture of the star relic? can u please show me?
paragon
07-10-2007, 03:53 AM
ZOMG the arbiter isn't cloaking stuffs either!?!?!!!
and the tank wireframe looks freaky
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