WWI 2008 StarCraft 2 Unit Stats!

[Joneagle_X]

Here are the latest stats from all three races.

The Terran might be slightly unreliable as some of the information was missed on collection. That information is to the best of my memory correct.

Some of this may be hard to interpret, so I will attach the Excel document as well. Feel free to ask me any questions in my review thread!

If you intend to use these stats in any way, shape, or form, please source Starcraft2Forum.org as these were painstakingly obtained! Thank you!

EDIT: Unfortunately I can't get the post to format correctly. If someone would like to format the stats in text somewhere that would be great. Thanks! You can still get the stats from the Excel sheet.

[kuvasz]

Jon I'm begging you to implement tables - I can't read that post.

edit: oh I just saw the xls file, nvm
edit2: yay for photon cannon 125/125! but are you sure Terran buildings have such low hp? that's weird

[Joneagle_X]

No, I'm not 100% sure on all of them. But I'm 100% sure of the Barracks, Factory, Starport, and Command Center.

[furrer]

Great for the information! Check my questions please :)
I think you got the baneling wrong, because Blizzard said it has + against armored?

[Psionicz]

No, Blizzard said it has a bonus against structures.

[furrer]

Oh, but I thought that Armored = buildings/some units, and a lot of sites said that too, but fine then! Thanks for clearing it up Psi. I dont like one thing about this zerg build thought:
They have too few units they can mass early/midgame, as hydralisks gas cost is to high to mass. But on the other hand, Zerg never had a midgame unit they could mass, but now they dont have a GtA massing unit either.

[Gasmaskguy]

What's happening with the Terran hp?! :D Barracks, Factory and Starport with less than a third of their original hp?! Jon, Terran must have been really susceptible to drops, with buildings dropping like flies? How is this balanced?

[Joneagle_X]

The building HPs could be wrong. They seem to be incorrect. I can assure you that the Zerg and Protoss are 100%.

[BirdofPrey]

Do you have research costs?

[Kaaraa]

sometimes I wonder why we don't just give a researched regen to Hydras and just do away with the roaches...I want my cheap Hydras back! :(

[furrer]

Yeah, zerg has no massable GtA + GtG anymore...... Im beginning to be more and more protoss....

[BirdofPrey]

Say Jon next time you see Nik give him a good whack for slacking off

[furrer]

Yeah, he seems to have been a day to Amsterdam before he started to write those down.

[VodkaChill]

Wow 3 things on Zerg.

Baneling back to 30+40on light -> no more +150 against building?! Back to original speed then?
Nydus Worm 100 Mineral Cost -> Not too expensif, maybe people will use them even if you need to creep to drop anywhere.
Corruptor 100hp 0 armor -> Even less than the Mutalisk for an AtA only, no wonder Jon found it useless against capital ships, this is lower than I even thought it had..

[furrer]

Probably still slow + 150 against buildings!
And it has a hive upgrade that makes it faster acording to sclegacy.com

[Darktemplar_L]

Wow, Terran buildings are so weak!

[Joneagle_X]

Give Nik a break. He wanted to go home to watch the European Cup final.

:P

[Gforce]

Give Nik a break. He wanted to go home to watch the European Cup final.

:P

No excuse, he should have gotten tivo or another program that records television.

[ProjectArc]

Uh, is it me or am I the only one thinking that Blizzard got less creative in naming. I mean 'Huge/Large Queen' are we reading from a 4th grader dictionary?

PS What happend to the Archon - 300HP, 10Shields... does it mean it's pretty stronger now?

[Nikzad]

screw you guys
Paris was a pain in the butt and playing SC2 was the only good thing to come out of the trip
I was having trouble getting a ticket out of Paris since my credit card wasn't working and I was on the verge of missing my flight home to the States after 5 MONTHS AWAY FROM MY FAMILY

not to mention the fact that they lost my luggage and the French were USELESS

@ BoP/Gforce - You have no idea how much pain you are in for if that is serious ingratitude. Take what you get and enjoy it. I wasn't the only one there, so don't even joke about blaming me for incomplete info. Mods are people too ffs, so if you want research costs too you can buy yourself a ticket to the next WWI

If anyone is having trouble interpreting Protoss or my half of the Terran on the spreadsheet then ask and I'll clarify

[BirdofPrey]

Unfortunatley for me I can't afford to go to Europe over the weekend on a whim.

From what Jon told me you were suppoed to write down the stats and he ended up doing most of that. If h wa exagurating then its no my fault. If I misinterpreted his meaning I'm sorry.

You don't have to be a jackass about it

[Nikzad]

Well if Jon told you that, he was wrong...but I'm not getting into that
we split it down the middle, I did all of Protoss and half of Terran, and he did the other half and all of Zerg

For your information, I wasn't in Europe over the weekend on a whim, I was already studying abroad there. but that's not the issue. The issue is you being ungrateful despite my and Jon's best efforts to provide you with information that you otherwise might not have had. I'm completely open to criticism, but it needs to be phrased in the right way. I sure as hell don't like being accused of slacking off, nor do take kindly to being accused of it in any way other than to my face. And if I acted like a jackass from your point of view, maybe it's because I felt you were being one in the first place.

This is the second time (that I know of) that you have been unnecessarily critical of the forum administration BoP, is there something else that is on your mind that you want to PM me about? If so I would be glad to listen to your problems/suggestions.

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Now to the main point of my post:

lurkers_lurk sent me a PM about a few of the unit damage outputs on the excel spreadsheet and I thought I would paste what I wrote back to him here so that if anyone had any questions about damage they might be answered here:

ok well the warp ray does more damage the longer it shoots at one target, so it does 6 damage for 2 seconds, after which its damage gets multiplied by 4 to 24 damage, and after 4 seconds it multiplies its damage times 8, so 48 damage

the carrier's interceptors have two guns on them; each gun does 5 damage and one shot from each gun on an interceptor is considered one attack. so you have 10 damage for every attack by an interceptor, of which there are 8, so if every interceptor attacks once, it's 80 damage

the same thing goes for the reaper. they have two handguns each, which deal 3 damage each. one shot from each gun is considered one attack, so multiply by 2 to get 6 damage per attack. the mine ability does 30 damage

same thing goes for the thor, except it has 4 guns. the 10 damage per gun is for ground targets i think, and the 4 damage is for air targets. in each case, multiply by the 4 guns to figure out how much damage one attack makes

basically, if there is a "x #" beside a unit's attack, that means that one attack consists of two slices, swings, shots, swipes, volleys, etc.

hope this helps

[Kaaraa]

^ Jon said the Carriers did only 10 damage per attack cycle. Does that mean that only one interceptor is deployed per cycle, or do all of the interceptors deploy much slower now?

[Nikzad]

well it is 10 damage per attack cycle, but not per carrier attack cycle, but per interceptor attack cycle

[kuvasz]

And I remember reading somewhere that the carrier was weak... 10 per inteceptor is like instawin for Protoss.

ps nice sig, Nik

[BirdofPrey]

If the fire rate is lower than on the original intercepter that would make it weaker

I belive it also has less overall health and armor

@ Nik
I didn't mean you were in Europe on a whim. To tell the truth I don't care why you were there, the fact is you were there and many of us were not and yet you find space to complain about it.

As for me being over critical, I was told something and I made a comment based on the information I was given. I am a direct person; I speak my mind. If you can't handle it and would prefer I feed you some bull**** thats to bad.

As far as I am concerned this matter is closed.
Mistakes were made and people got pissed off at each other but there's nothing we can do about it now so don;t dwell on it

[Nikzad]

I wasn't complaining so much as trying to explain why I didn't have more information for you; I meant that besides the convention itself, I had a pretty crappy time in Paris and it affected my duties as a mod. So please take possible personal issues you may not know about into account before you say such things in future.
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thanks kuvasz. something i followed a tutorial to make for the most part to be honest, then i threw in my girl for good measure

[Joneagle_X]

It's not a big deal guys. You can find the correct Terran building info on another site. Most everything is there except for those.

I was simply pointing out that some things are missing. Not a big deal. We have lives too, you know, and were running on very little sleep (11 hours in 4 days).

I'm sure if you guys ask specific questions about any of the Protoss or Terran stats, Nikzad would be the best one to ask how to decipher them as I was simply doing my best to interpret his shorthand.

In fact, when I get home I'll scan Nik a copy and he can edit the post accordingly to reflect his own stats.

No worries, Nik, the trip made me hate Paris too. LOL

[VodkaChill]

'' the trip made me hate Paris too.''

About that, I wanted to know a few things.
-What is you nationnality?
-First language?
-Spoken Language?
-How did french people treated you over Paris?
-Why did you hate it?

I have a few guesses, but I want to hear what you have to say about my french cousin's (We (Quebec) are cousin's of France). You can say anything , I don't really care about those cousins anyway XD

[Joneagle_X]

I'm an American, from Florida.

English

English, German, a little Spanish

****ty. Some were nice and spoke English but the overall feeling was pretty bad and they made everything inconvenient, really.

Reason stated above. Difficult to get anything done and very inconvenient for anything you needed.

[Nikzad]

I'm from the States

I don't speak French

They lost my luggage and almost everyone was really apathetic as to my situation and didn't really do much to help out

[VodkaChill]

Jee, I would have loved to be with you guys and give you a hand with those local frenchs : /

Nikzad : Sucks for your luggage :(

[Nikzad]

Thanks. I got it back in the end so it's all good. But losing it doesn't give me very pleasant memories of Paris or Charles De Gualle Airport. :D

[Major Willy]

Heheh. Du Gualle. Sure doesn't sound like a Starcraft character.

But damn. Beautiful spreadsheet (not visually attractive, but wicked job on gathering the data) thanks to you guys.

[Joneagle_X]

Lol Willy is this the first parallel you've drawn between DuGaulle, the French president, and the Starcraft Admiral?

You're about 10 years behind the ball. :D

[Major Willy]

Well I haven't even been out of my own country.

And I'm tired.

And I've only been out of Alberta twice.

[HatedSphere]

Thanks for the stats. Is the Planetary Fortress the upgraded Command Center?

[Joneagle_X]

Yes, it is. :D