New concept Idea I like to see = Galactic Map

[concreteasflesh]

sometimes it gets hard following the movement of story in starcraft, the quick jump from planet to planet. i know theres warp speeeed... but what i would like to see it a galactical map of the events of starcraft. where the planets are in the kopluru sector, where space stations/platforms are located, where major events took place. so we have a sense of the true scale behind starcraft.

or is there a 3rd party galactic map of the starcraft universe? ide love to see one.

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[generalrievous]

/agreed
The map in W3 made the story easy to follow sooo right not here of course it wont be the exact same though since its a galactic one

[brules]

Sounds like good fan-art material.

But some of the interplanetary storylines don't make alot of sense to me. The starcraft guide notes that Auir and the terran dominion worlds are on the edge of the galaxy while char is near the core, whereas in the span of the single player missions you go from the terran dominion to char and back again - I never really understood that.

[Dxun]

one word for you brules...

Magic

nuf said ;D

[mc2]

It's a very good idea, when I first played I got confused too with all the planet jumping, and sometimes the space platforms and stuff. I mean why the hell is there an orbiting platform around Char? Who built it there?

- Zerus (ex zerg homeworld)
- Char (zerg current homeworld)
- Aiur (ex protoss homeworld)
- Shakuras (protoss current homeworld)
The 4 planets above are almost outside the Kropulu Sector, they are very very distant from each other

Tarsonis, Moria, Braxis, Korhal, Mar Sara, Chau Sara are all currently or former Terran worlds and I believe they are in pretty close proximity to each other

[Arachanox]

An impressive list, mc2. Did you call that from memory?

And I also fail to see the logic of orbital platforms around Char. o.O

[tweakismyname]

the orbiting platform above char was built by the xel'naga when the were originaly creating the zerg spieces if u read the storie it says so then they were hunted down and killed by the zerg hehe

[Major Willy]

Uhm. Zerg homeworld was Zerus. Not Char.

Xel'naga were never near Char actually.

[tweakismyname]

hmm i guess your right. i guess i was mistaken but i just looked and i cannot find anywhere where it says the overmind moved from zerus to char sooooo, anything could of happened, in my humble opinion they found a spiecies they wanted to enslave and took over their homeworld with the orbiting space platform just remaining there

[Lord David]

Hmm seems a little too Command & Conquer (you know tactical map of region between missions), maybe integrate this into the briefing "cinematics" (If there is to be a sort of briefing cinematic sequence (perhaps being able to look around the briefing room, or showing people wondering around.. etc)), or have the galactic map shown prior to briefing map or after it, or even show it as a selectable option within briefing...

Either way, not by any means innovative, but it would be nice to see where your supposed general location is and where your next mission is set.

[paragon]

wait.. some people still think char is the zerg homeworld? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE PAST DECADE?
char is not near the core and it is not the zerg homeworld zerus is.

[FlyingTiger]

ooooooo a galactic map sounds like a very good idea. :powerup:

I would love to see where everything is relative to each other too. Hey ya never know, they might be implemeting that idea already. ;)

[mc2]

It's better to define "homeworld" as the planet where the majority of the population of the race currently resides. Not where the race's earliest ancestors originated from.
So in that sense Char would be the Zerg's homeworld, as Kerrigan and most of the zerg broods reside there. Zerus was a former Zerg homeworld.
Also Shakuras is now the Protoss homeworld, Aiur is the former one.
Also Earth is Terran's homeworld because most of the humans in the year 2500 would live on Earth. But if you want to specifically say the "Dominion's homeworld", then it would Korhal.

[Ghost]

wait.. some people still think char is the zerg homeworld? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE PAST DECADE?
char is not near the core and it is not the zerg homeworld zerus is.


Which reminds me, has anyone attempted to directly assault Zerus?

[Major Willy]

R.I.P. anyone that tries. Or all the Zerg have left Zerus in the various attacks on Terran worlds and Aiur.

[paragon]

It's better to define "homeworld" as the planet where the majority of the population of the race currently resides. Not where the race's earliest ancestors originated from.

um... no it's not
Look at Homeworld (the game) they were trying to get back to their homeworld which they were exiled from many many generations ago and their entire population lived on Kharak not their homeworld (Hiigara) (and then the mothership after their planet was firebombed). The mothership certainly wasn't their homeworld when their entire population was living on it.

[mc2]

1. This forum is about Starcraft. So other game's definitions should not be transferred here. Not even Warcraft's.

2. In the first mission of Episode IX "The Stand", Zerutal tells Aldaris that all Protoss on Aiur needs to be evacuated to the Dark Templar's homeworld of Shakuras. Now clearly that the DTs were originated from Aiur many years ago. But since they were detained from Aiur, and settled in Shakuras, the Dark Templars claim Shakuras as their homeworld.

3. The definition for homeworld I stated is more correct for Starcraft.

[Fenix]

Paragon, don't argue with him!! He's a mod!!






And he's right....

[capthavic]

lol yeah, don't mess with a mod.

And he is right.

[Dreadnought]

Back on topic... I wonder how far earth actually is from the other planets. It would be cool if they showed that as well.

[paragon]

the dark templar had been there for many many generations. The khala protoss from auir (all of which were born there considering their lifespan is hundreds of years so any khala protoss warriors would not be born on Shakuras as they would only be 10 years old at the most) would not consider shakuras their homeworld for two very important reasons.
1) They were born on auir, that is their home, that is what they consider their home. they would not just say "well, we lost that planet but hell we've got this one so it is our new homeworld."
2) On the starcraft 2 site it says that the protoss warriors are pissed that they lost auir and intend to reclaim it.

[kehmdaddy]

Paragon ain't even spellin Aiur right, sheeeeeeiitt...
I love this idea, I really hope they add it. I truly have no clue where the planets are in relation to one another, this would help out a lot and educate me haha

[Dreadnought]

When they show the zerg taking over planets and stuff they didnt have names...

[kingsky123]

someone should tell blizzard about this galactic map thing. Its a great idea

[mc2]

I've just remembered that Braxis is actually quite a far distance from Tarsonis. Duran informed Kerrigan something along the lines of the Psi Disruptor's signal has travelled deep through space and has reached us here on Tarsonis. So the PD is on Braxis and if its signals have to travel "a long distance" to Tarsonis, meaning they are far away from each other.

I'm not too sure where abouts Korhal is, but it could also be quite a distance from Tarsonis.

As far as I know, Char and Aiur and Shakuras are VERY far apart from each other. They are all located on the edge of the Kropulu Sector. Hence Warp Gates and Worm Holes are favoured to travel between those planets.

SirBaron made the topic chapter summary that is very useful in keeping track of the location of the story. I'll put up my little summary here.

E1 - Planet Mar Sara overruned. Mengsk came to the rescue on Mar Sara. Planet Antiga Prime openly revolted. Duke rescued on a planet. Attack on Tarsonis's space platform. Antiga Prime overruned as confederates launched an attack. Tarsonis overruned by Zerg, and Protoss joined in the battle. Kerrigan kidnapped on Tarsonis's platform. Raynor makes an escape.

E2 - Cerebrate with the chrysalis(captured Kerrigan) escapes from Tarsonis to Char via a platform. Infested Kerrigan borns on Char while Jim attempts to rescue. Kerrigan attacked fake Tassadar. Zasz got killed on Char. Eradication of Dark Templars continue on Char. Cerebrate goes to Aiur to prepare for the invasion. Invasion of Aiur successful as Overmind inplanted itself there.

E3 - Defending Antioch from zerg. Killed a cerebrate but was reincarnated. Battle on Scion. Fenix died. Aldaris + executor travels to Char's platform, rescues Tassadar. Players joins Tassadar on surface of Char and enters an installation which then rescued Zeratul. Everyone returns to Aiur and the Conclave vs Rebels continues, Tassadar captured and rescued. Zeratul truely killed cerebrates, Tassadar killed Overmind.

I'll do Brood War next time :P

[Lord David]

wait.. some people still think char is the zerg homeworld? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE PAST DECADE?
char is not near the core and it is not the zerg homeworld zerus is.


I never said Char was the Zerg homeworld. (In spite of the Earthicans believing so ;))

As for the do not mention other games remark by our dear beloved moderato, I simply used C&C as an example of such a map concept having been used before... :)

[ShoGun]

Planet Braxis is located in the Protoss Sector, somewhat near Aiur. In the Brood War mission where you recover the uraj crystal on Planet Braxis, Zeratul gives strong hints that some battles during the Aeon of Strife occurred on Braxis, and Protoss Technology had not been fully evolved during that time period.

[Nikzad]

It's better to define "homeworld" as the planet where the majority of the population of the race currently resides. Not where the race's earliest ancestors originated from.

um... no it's not

ummm...here's an idea! how about we cease to argue and nitpick about mundane details and minor word choice? paragon if homeworld is not the right word then what word should be used?

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I'd like to see the galactic map (great idea, btw :powerup:) integrated into the menu of SC2 - I always loved the interceptors going on in the background for single player and the black hole (was that what it was?) for Exiting

[FlyingTiger]

It's better to define "homeworld" as the planet where the majority of the population of the race currently resides. Not where the race's earliest ancestors originated from.

um... no it's not



haha you can combine both of definition being that a homeworld is where the race's earliest ancestors originated from AND the planet where the majority of the population of the race currently resides. Cause really if it is where the earilest ancestors were, the it is prolly where the majority of the population is unless a catastrophe happened and they had to move into a new planet.

Like Earth is the homeworld for the terrans.