Duran's Speech in 'Dark Origin'

[ShoGun]

This is the conversation between Duran and Zeratul on the bonus mission for Brood War, Dark Origin. Everything, word for word, is exact. I added this for those of you who want to review Duran's speech, so you don't have to continuously listen to in it the game, you can just read it and review it here :).

• Zeratul: �I-I've never seen a creature like this before. �

• Computer: Test subject 29 classified, protoss/zerg hybrid in perfect cryo-hibernation, psyionic emanations minimal.

• Zeratul: �No . . . �

• Duran: �Magnificent, isn’t it? �

• Zeratul: �What!? Who are you? �

• Duran: �I’ve had many names throughout the millennia young prodigal, you know me best as Samir Duran. �

• Zeratul: �Kerrigan’s consult, is this part of her twisted schemes? �

• Duran: �No . . . young Kerrigan could not have engineered this grand experiment, although her rebirth into the Zerg Swarm has sped up my progress. I can assure you that this endeavor is quite beyond her narrow understanding. �

• Zeratul: “If you are not her pawn, then what are you?�

• Duran: “I am a servant of a far greater power; a power that has slept for countless ages, and is reflected in the creature within that cell.�

• Zeratul: “Have you any conception of what you’ve created here, do you have any idea what this-this hybrid is capable of!?�

• Duran: “Of course I do. This creature is the completion of a cycle. Its role in the cosmic order was preordained when the stars were young. Behold the culmination of your history.�

• Zeratul: “All I behold is an abomination!�

• Duran: “Your violence young prodigal is typical, as is your inability to comprehend the greater scheme of things. You can destroy all of the specimens here; it will do you no good, for I have seeded the hybrid on many, many worlds. You will never find them all before they awaken, and when they do, your universe will be changed . . . forever."


And that’s it, whatever speculations you have about this crucial dialogue, and how it may affect StarCraft 2, feel free to post here.

[Dreadnought]

Gosh i wonder what the hybrids will do. Maybe they will infest everyone and advance in technology + physical form.
What were the 2 things for protoss and zerg. I think one was purity of form. What was the other?

[ShoGun]

Purity of Essence. . . or unity.

[DontHate]

cool. I love duran. Hope we see alot of him in sc2. :D

[thrif]

Purity of form and purity of essence; the Xel'Nagas themselves. Obviously something is trying to create Xel'Nagas, the question is what. :D

[ImaGiNe.]

I seriously doubt that he is a Xel'Naga agent. Why would the Xel'Naga create a mirror image of themselves? If they wished to create hybrids, they themselves would have been the best choice for test subjects. Duran is serving another race, a race that probably contested the doings of the Xel'Naga.

[GuiMontag]

the XelNaga didnt have purity of essence or form becuase they got repeatably owned by their creations rofl

[ImaGiNe.]

The Protoss are one side (purity of form) who have been defeated by the Zerg (purity of essence) and vice versa. The Xel'Naga easily had all the materials and the understanding of their creations to create a hybrid of their own before the events would occur. Surely the Xel'Naga have realized this because that is how they selected the species of which to augment.

[GuiMontag]

yeh, if the Xel wanted to they could have created a hybrid ages ago, i think its more likely that they lost interest in manipulating species because they couldn't get it right.

[IO]

Oh yes the Xel did indeed get "owned" by both zerg and protoss but does anyone remeber the Xel Temple on shakurus and the damage it did to the zerg? Well that makes we question how they got defeated in the first place as the protoss would have only been at the a tech level slightly higher than the terrans and the zerg didn't have most of their main species yet. So with weopens as powerful as the temple it makes me question HOW they got defeated 2 times in a row by slightly "less evolved" species.

[GuiMontag]

i believe its because the XelNaga don't have a large army(if any), they are not interested in killing.
also its like killing their children lol

[IO]

indeed, But why would they build a large temple of great power on a dark looking planet? I don't see how it has any other uses.

[ShoGun]

The Xel'Naga have do not have purity of form, or purity of essence. They are extra dimensional entities that can live for millions and millions years, possessing infinite knowledge of the universe . . . they are like gods. They do not share the same traits of the Protoss or Zerg however.

To me, its obvious Duran was ordered by the Xel'Naga to seed the hybrids, or is a Xel'Naga himself acting on his own account, serving his Xel'Naga brethren indirectly or to "the greater scheme of things". “I am a servant of a far greater power; a power that has slept for countless ages, and is reflected in the creature within that cell."

And it was not the original intention of the Xel'Naga to create a being with both traits of pure form, and essence. After seeing the flaws of creating the Protoss with pure form first hand, they wanted to create a more unified race, and thus they created the Zerg, which in their eyes was far more successful, then the Protoss. After creating the Zerg's collective will, the Overmind, the Xel'Naga were convinced they had created the perfect being. But before they can move on, or do anything else, they were destroyed by their creation.

I believe a few survived however, and have been observing the events of the Protoss and Zerg wars, which inspired them to begin their most grand experiment yet, a being powerful enough to independently change the fate of the universe. It's even possible that they had started the experiment long before the Protoss and Zerg ever met. Or perhaps not, it would explain why Duran and his pawns were doing so much research of Zerg and Protoss still. But I believe Duran is indeed affiliated with the Xel'Naga, the fact that he has already seeded Hybrids on "many, many worlds" would lead me to believe that he definitely knows what he’s doing.

[Darktemplar_L]

I love this last part,"Your universe will be changed...FOREVER!"

[josh]

i see 2 things here: either Duran is one of the Xel'Naga or another experiment of the Xel'Naga.

but here's my say. there could be a possibility that a new race might awaken at the end of starcraft2.

[ShoGun]

Well we don't even know what the hybrids will be like (assuming they will be in the game in the first place). Although they share the Zerg and Protoss traits, game wise their play style could be completely different from either Zerg or Protoss. Realistically, I believe every hybrid will have a mind of it's own, exceeding the intelligence of even the most brilliant Protoss minds with a heightened psychic power. There will be a force stronger then anyone could comprehend that is controlling them all fortunately, to give them unity and allow them to organize and act as one individual.

The Hybrids will probably be different then anyone has thought up of if they will even appear in the game at all (most likely as a small neutral race consisting of just a few units and 1 or two more buildings).

[DKutrovsky]

I believe, the Xel'Naga created the protoss and all was well. When they created the zerg however they got killed to near extinction and lost control of the overmind. And maybe now, they created the hybrid to finish the zerg since it became such a problem.

[kiksu]

The Protoss attacked the Xel'Naga too. That's why they wanted to create a specie that would be controlled by one intelligent being instead of making the whole specie intelligent.

[DKutrovsky]

Didnt know that. Interesting, why did the protoss attack them though?

[Lemonparty]

''The tribes began to fear treachery from their masters, and in seeking to sever themselves from the rest of their race, attempted to lose the psychic link that they shared. This dissolved whatever remnants of brotherhood or unity that the Protoss had shared. Feeling that the greatest attribute of the Protoss was lost, the Xel'Naga began withdrawing from Aiur. However, the suspicious Protoss responded with an attack that destroyed a number of Xel'Naga Worldships. The Xel'Naga Worldships fended off the hasty attack and left the system. The Protoss Tribes then turned against each other, beginning the Aeon of Strife, the most devastating civil war in recorded galactic history. ''

I guess that's the reason

[DKutrovsky]

Sounds wierd, i didnt think the protoss are so warlike. Its like:

Protoss1: That guy may steal my candy...
Protoss2: Yeah lets attack our masters so we dont get our candy stolen.
Xel'Naga: WTF? PEW PEW. Time to leave...

[ShoGun]

I believe, the Xel'Naga created the protoss and all was well. When they created the zerg however they got killed to near extinction and lost control of the overmind. And maybe now, they created the hybrid to finish the zerg since it became such a problem.


I think it's more complicated then that. The Xel'Naga seem too sophisticated to let silly things like revenge and containment worry them. The Xel'Naga knew what they were doing, and considered the risks. To me, it feels like the attacks lead by the Protoss, and Zerg didn't affect them, or worry them. Why else would they let the attacks against them carry on so steady, especially if they are so advance? Think of it this way, if the overmind hadn't destroyed the Xel'Naga, it would not have gained all that scientific knowledge they previously acquired, and it wouldn't have been as great as it was. I think the Xel'Naga knew this, and accepted their fate.

Maybe there's more to the Xel'Naga then we all know. I believe they are pan-dimensional entities that can manifest bodies in the physical dimension . . . and Duran is one such body.

[GuiMontag]

the problem is that if Duran is a XelNaga, then what is the 'far greater' power that he is serving...

[Alasdair]

Or perhaps not, it would explain why Duran and his pawns were doing so much research of Zerg and Protoss still.

i understand how he could study the zerg (he was serving kerrigan the whole campaigne) but when did he have a chance to study the protoss, maybe before the game begins, or maybe in a different form...

eerie..... eeirer than a door opening by itself and ur like "WTF that door just opened by itself!?!?"

[kiksu]

Don't forget he's probably a few thousands years old. So he had the time to study both species since their creation I guess.

[GuiMontag]

he was studying the protoss in the dark origin mission, he had them in test cells and he was experimenting with pylons.

[paragon]

Maybe Zeratul will go off searching for all the hybrid seeded worlds and then he will hear of an artifact that he would be able to use to easily kill the hybrids but this will be a trap and he will become corrupted by it and instead lead the hybrids on their galaxy dominating quest


the problem is that if Duran is a XelNaga, then what is the 'far greater' power that he is serving...

The Burning Legion

[josh]

but how the hell did Duran managed to make himself look like a Terran? maybe the Xel'Naga also had an experiment on Humanity. or so i thought.

[kiksu]

he was studying the protoss in the dark origin mission, he had them in test cells and he was experimenting with pylons.


I'm sure he was pretty much done experimenting Protoss in Dark Origin, considering he already managed to seed Hybrids in many planets.

[mc2]

Yes, lots of fans agree on that Duran is a servant of the Xel'Naga, so basically the experiment with the Protoss was done milleniums ago, and so was the experiments with the Zerg. What they are now trying to do is to finish off their job long time ago. ie, Create the perfect race by merging a Protoss and a Zerg. The Xel's appointed servant Duran seeded many hybrids across many worlds, so the ''grand experiment'' is a complete success.

[didd293]

I think it's nearly obvious that Duran's a Xel or their servant cuz if he wasn't they would probably have to add another faction, which I'm sure that Blizzard wouldn't want to do unless they were planning on a threequel, or more. Adding another faction just screws up the story.

[Alasdair]

it'd be really funny if blizzard people were reading this thread and used paragon's idea....

[Wlck742]

I think Blizzard made more questions than they could answer when they included this mission.

[paragon]

it'd be really funny if blizzard people were reading this thread and used paragon's idea....

Yeah, and they already wrote all the dialog for that for warcraft 3 so they're set. I mean, that game is like 5 years old, whose going to remember the dialog/plot anyways. Surefire win/win for blizzard. Everything will think it's a great original plot with fresh dialog, and blizzard wont have to write a new plot or dialog.

[Sinbues]

XelNaga Ftw I want to see them in sC2 For they are a great thing to have in this kind of dull story i want to see how the 3 races will try to defeat them by like forming together

[BaneOfHumanity]

I just had a thought and since SC has taken from Warhammer 40K so much...

What if the Xel Naga are like the Necrons....they created creatures that would breed so they could eventually come to harvest them...Just an idea...

I think the xel-naga were never really "defeated" I think they let their creations only think it...

But Im insane anyway so pay not attention...

[GuiMontag]

that doesnt fit the fluff of the XelNaga, Xel are not interested in killing anything, only creating

[BaneOfHumanity]

that doesnt fit the fluff of the XelNaga, Xel are not interested in killing anything, only creating


They really dont know what the Xel'Naga are really like...you can only go off the opinions of the overmind and the conclave....but who really knows...think of it this way...they created cattle...

[Deadpool]

Ok one thing u guys need to understand 1st off we dont know that the Xel'Naga are a protoss/zerg lookin race they just found the protoss they didnt create the protoss they found them then pushed there civilization in the way they wanted them to and the zerg were created from a larva the Xel'naga found on the world of Char

[mc2]

Exactly correct Deadpool. The Xel'Naga discovered the primitive Protoss that lived like any wild animal. Then the Xel were interested in their natural psionic talents and engineered them to an advanced, thriving civilization (although there were devastations from time to time). Given that fact, I'd still think of the Xel as the creators/masters of the Protoss because without them, the Protoss will be nothing like the ones we have in the game.

The same goes with Zerg. The primitive larvas are practically useless, they can't even defend themselves properly let alone attacking others. It is until the Xel were interested in their purity of essence, and assisted the larvas in their evolution by combining the genes of other creatures. Then it become the Zerg we are famililar with in the game. The same again I'd still consider the Xel as the most important identities in the development of the Zerg.

So Duran, as a servant of the Xel'Naga, didn't really "create" the Hybrids. He merely "mix and match" the genes of creatures they found before

[Shadowdragon]

Why does everyone assume Duran works for the Xel'Naga? I mean, he's completly insane. He's making the most powerful weapons in history from the two species with track records of being homicidial maniacs. And he *probably* thinks he can control them. It is just as likely that he THINKS he's serving a higher power as it is he IS serving a higher power.

And who says the Xel'Naga are the only ones out there? They may have even made other species. After all, it would be kind of lame (at least to me) if what everyone thought was true.

[Nikzad]

Why does everyone assume Duran works for the Xel'Naga? I mean, he's completly insane...It is just as likely that he THINKS he's serving a higher power as it is he IS serving a higher power.

And who says the Xel'Naga are the only ones out there? They may have even made other species. After all, it would be kind of lame (at least to me) if what everyone thought was true.


I think it is safe to say that he is a servant of the Xel'Naga, because Blizzard doesn't have many other options. It's not like they are gonna do this whole story, then at the end be like "Oh yeah, by the way, there was this other race, called the Bel'Naga, that also did experiments with different races. They are responsible for everything. The end."

Similarly, they can't just go "Oh by the way, you know how we made you think there was this big subplot where the Xel'Naga, the big link between the two most powerful races in the universe, were planning a big hybrid experiment? Jk. It was just some random Middle Eastern guy who took advanced chem in high school. He got an A."

PS - w00t 500th post!

[Shadowdragon]

On the contrary, there are plenty of options. He could be a rogue Xel'Naga, another species created by the Xel'Naga, an enemy of the Xel'Naga, a diffrent strain of zerg, or a hybrid himself.

more later

[Nikzad]

oh ok, I thought when you said you didn't think he "work{s} for the Xel'Naga," I took it to mean that you thought he wasn't a Xel'Naga at all. The rogue Xel'Naga is definitely feasible. However, I think that at this point it is too late for Blizzard to throw in a new faction that rivals the Xel'Naga in terms of bio-engineering into the SC universe equation. Enemy of the Xel'Naga is an interesting thought as well, I won't rule that out. A different strain of Zerg? Ehhhhhh. Maybe it is a simultaneous/dual-embodiment of the Overmind? I don't think that the hybridization of the Zerg and Protoss would allow shapeshifting though, but who knows?

I think if it isn't the Xel'Naga, he could be a fourth-party species that can shapeshift. Maybe an enemy of the Xel'Naga. If it is an enemy or a new party in the story, I think a cool thing for Blizzard to do would be to put him in a new campaign as a hero, and you play with him throughout the first two (following whatever storyline they choose, with little hints of hybrids here and there) and then in the third campaign(maybe at the end), you find that this hero you've been using through all these levels is actually Samir Duran in disguise, and he has been working behind the scenes all this time. Maybe a whole 4th campaign or extra few levels where all the races fight against Duran and the Hybrids. But that's enough from me, this turned out way longer than I anticipated. What do you guys/girls think?

[Deadpool]

i think that your idea is pretty cool him being able to shapeshift and the player playing as him throught the game and then reveal himself at the end and for your idea for a forth campain where all the races band together and fight off him and the hybrids i think when u click on the forth campain it should ask you what race u wanna play for example if i picked Zerg then i played throu the 4rth campian as the zerg then i would get the zerg ending to the game and same thing for the protoss and terran (all the endings fitting together) and i just got an idea for the ending. Zeratul either over hearing or just assuming the Zerg along w/ Kerrigan planning to betray the other races Zeratul should kill Kerrigan in the night since there gonna betray the others and besides Zeratul prob wants some revenge after he had to kill Raszagal when she was under the influence of Kerrigan cause he didnt want her to be Kerrigans slave basiccaly. But i dont really care for the terran so i dont care wat there ending is lol

[i2new@aol.com]

Duran is certanly something evil. He must be a Xel-naga. I red a story about a terran man who found was on a team exploring a Old tomb of the protoss/Xel-Naga. Funny his team died and a sprit of greater higher power took over his body. The man was not Duran at least i dont think he was, but my point he what ever Duran is. he's close to the statues of Xel-Naga. I think Xel-naga made humans and humans wernt good enough so the Xel-naga left them along time ago on earth.

[JudicatorPrime]

Disagree, pretty much everything we have right now points to the Xel' Naga with the Zerg and Protoss and had no part with the Humans. It also practically mirrors some backstory in WH40K, where humans were one of the races not experimented on by the Ancient... guys.

If Duran IS working for Xel' Naga, unless he's defected to some other Xel' Naga organization bent on universal domination I doubt hes a bad guy. He's probably just under their orders... Whoever said that a hybrid was 'bad', afterall their forefathers made or helped in the evolution of both races.. being a cold experiment they have reason to continue it.

[ShdwyTemplar]

I bring you guys some help with the Xel'Naga just me and my horrible passion for SC Lore.
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Xel%27Naga Hope it helps in some way for the History known of them.
Starcraft Wiki gotta love it. ;D

[Wlck742]

umm... how do these wiki guys know so much?

[kiksu]

Duran is certanly something evil. He must be a Xel-naga. I red a story about a terran man who found was on a team exploring a Old tomb of the protoss/Xel-Naga. Funny his team died and a sprit of greater higher power took over his body. The man was not Duran at least i dont think he was, but my point he what ever Duran is. he's close to the statues of Xel-Naga. I think Xel-naga made humans and humans wernt good enough so the Xel-naga left them along time ago on earth.




You sure you're not talking about the Dark Templar Trilogy novels? Where the spirit of a Dark Templar gets into the mind of an archeologist.

[i2new@aol.com]

Yeah. that was a dark templar. well i though duran was possible that guy. and if the protoss are able to do mind controll then the Xel'Naga can do it as well or even better. thats why Durans had thousands of names, because he's been body swaping for Ages!

Also something in the wikie came up that scared me greatly. It said that the Xel'Naga came from far beyond the Milky Way.............WTF! that means where ever they came from theres got to be more there! there not even freaking natives to are galixy so where did they come from. I bet Duran was sent to look for the Xel'Naga that dissapeared.

I personaly have a vage vision of how the hole Star Craft world might end and how it might look when it ends. Theres 2 versions of how the story might go down.

Version 1:
the terrans and Protoss Destroy all zerg and find out that Duran is from the Xel'Naga and here to finish there job. he figers hell the protoss are good enough and the protoss go home with Duran to a Far Far Far place and the terrans are left with a gift. Raynor Most likely becomes there leader and owns the freaking milky way.

version 2.
Durans crazy as hell wants to own the known Univers and trys to make a race thats as powerful as the protoss and countless like the Zerg. He is stopped and killed and also karrigen gets her ass handed to her by a protoss/Terran get to gether but wooping team effort!

[Hadean]

Arhghghghgh!

Another rampaging rant.

He is BLATANTLY Xel'Naga or Xel'Naga affiliated. They did the hint in a subtle way but once you read it you realize "Wow. I'm stupid. How did I ever think it was NOT Xel'Naga"

Duran says the words, and I'll quote'em again. "I serve a far greater power.ONE THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE CREATURE IN THAT CELL" What other bloody race is reflected or directly related to both the Zerg and the Protoss that is mentioned, OTHER than the Xel'Naga? Nobody. Thats who.

[JudicatorPrime]

And an infested Protoss... he could be just some 1337 Protoss/Zerg dude. Perhaps the Xel' Naga tried combining the species before and created something that now wants to create an army to kill whoever. Makes sense to me. The leader, the original spliced ZergToss could just be hella pissed that the Xel' Naga ****ed up with him and the Zerg... And to that end he starts raising a hybrid army, with the help of his pawn Duran...

[Deadpool]

Arhghghghgh!

Another rampaging rant.

He is BLATANTLY Xel'Naga or Xel'Naga affiliated. They did the hint in a subtle way but once you read it you realize "Wow. I'm stupid. How did I ever think it was NOT Xel'Naga"

Duran says the words, and I'll quote'em again. "I serve a far greater power.ONE THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE CREATURE IN THAT CELL" What other bloody race is reflected or directly related to both the Zerg and the Protoss that is mentioned, OTHER than the Xel'Naga? Nobody. Thats who.
EVERY ONE NEEDS TO STOP SAYING THE XEL'NAGA LOOK LIKE OR R REALATED TO THE PROTOSS AND ZERG ill explain again:

The Xel'Naga FOUND the protoss when the protoss were very primitive they were like animal when the Xel'Naga found them but then the Xel'Naga turned there civilization onto the path they wanted them to and then after the Xel'Naga showed themselves to the protoss after hiding for all those years many of the protoss went crazy or something and killed most of the Xel'naga

then the Xel'Naga went to a differrent planet where they found a larva called a zerg they then enhanced that larva and all the others they found and then the zerg were created realizeing there mistake with the protoss the Xel'naga then created the overmind so that the xel naga wount have to show themselves to there rampaging destruction but the Overmind Knew about the Xel'Naga so he told the zerg to ambush them 1 day and most of them were if not all on that planet died it is unsure if all of them died or if the Xel'Naga on those 2 planets were simply a expeditionary force and NO 1 has seen a Xel'Naga yet but blizzard has said they will apear in Starcraft 2

[GrahamTastic]

EVERY ONE NEEDS TO STOP SAYING THE XEL'NAGA LOOK LIKE OR R REALATED TO THE PROTOSS AND ZERG ill explain again:

[etc. etc. etc...]

HOW in the WORLD does that prove that the Xel'Naga aren't related to the Protoss and Zerg? Sure, they might not be genetically related, but they sculpted both of them into what they are today. That definitely connects the three races in a very fundamental way. By saying that the Xel'Naga are reflected by the Protoss/Zerg hybrid, you are basically saying that when someone says "Xel'Naga", the first thing that pops into your head is "the Zerg and the Protoss". The Zerg and the Protoss are the Legacy of the Xel'Naga and that is how people remember the Xel'Naga. THAT is how they are reflected by the Hybrid, not necessarily because they are related genetically.

[Hadean]

Watch the ending of the 2nd Singleplayer Video. ****ing Owned.

Hey Deadpool. You sure Duran wasn't referring to the Xel'Naga? You absolutely sure?

[GuiMontag]

we cant be sure he was talking about XelNaga, but if he wasnt then what would he have been talking about, especially since the Xel are going to play a major role in sc2.

[Drafter]

Whatever Duran is,its gonna be revealed in sc2 somehow and when that happens i bet that Blizzard is gonna show us those hybrids...They can't just make us wait forever you know !!!! or can they....
Oh,do you guys think that Duran have any connection with the Overmind ?

[ArchLimit]

Drafter, I have my bets on the fact that the hybrid race is going to be shown in SC2. It will probably be an unplayable race much like the burning legion in WC3. I bet it's going to be awesome. I think Blizzard considered very heavily the incorporation of the hybrids as a playable race in SC2, but decided that it would deviate too far from the magic of the original three races, which I'd agree with if that were the case. But at the same time, I think the possible storyline and narrative introduced by the "Dark Origins" speech was definitely very substantial and crucial to the progressing storyline and not just some amusement factor like the Secret Cow Level in D2.

Either way, I believe that we're gonna see either a hybrid race, the union of "essence" and "form", or the Xel'Naga themselves, or both. God, i can't wait. SC2 is just going to be too friggin' epic.

[kiksu]

ArchLimit where do you get all those animations, first the Zeratul on your sig, now the (Zerg?) avatar. hehe

[Nikzad]

he is teh leet graphix design0r

[AnArchY]

What if it turns out that the Xel-Naga are like older, super advanced humans who have mastered ways to live for thousands of years and be all extra pwnage, and the terrans were just like a group of them who were seperated early in the evolution process and didn't fair as well in evolution.

[Hadean]

I wonder how ridiculously hard it'll be to kill the Hybrids in the campaign. Since they wouldn't be a multiplayer race, they'd prolly be beefed up to **** to make them tougher. Could definitely be very epic.

[Joneagle_X]

Actually, we already know that the Terrans were convicted convicts sent from Earth on space ships that just happened to survive and started colonies that eventually spread out.....

The Protoss were found originally by the Xel'Naga on Auir and were genetically altered to enhance their "purity of unity" due to their psionic abilities... As previously posted, things went wrong and the Xel'Naga booked.

They then moved to Char where they found incredibly genetically suggestible larvae which they helped to learn to duplicate the DNA of other organisms. The first mutations were from docile snake-like creatures which eventually became the Zerglings, and another species became Hydralisks. So in fact, the larvae are just the base, or a clean sheet, of the Zerg and can be programmed to become any unit. They gained space travel after the Xel'Naga had left because they lost control of the Overmind. A herd of "space cows(whatever they're called)" visited the planet.... big mistake.

Anyway, in the last SC book they talk about the Xel'Naga temple. The humans wake it up from its slumber and it sends a signal to the Zerg and Protoss. They show up, all three races duke it out over the temple, and eventually they enter the temple and are absorbed. The Terrans are NOT ABSORBED because they ARE NOT RELEVANT and/or expected. Then a capsule kinda hybrid thing pops out the top and takes off into space. It is described as havings wings, etc...

Therefore, the Xel'Naga planned a hybrid of the two races hoping that it would solve the problems of each individual race and finally create the pure "unity" and "essence" that they wanted in their master race.

BTW, the Xel'Naga will be very technologically advanced (further than the Protoss) and will be capable of defending themselves, but won't be aggressors as they simply love science and creation!!!

Finally, we have no idea of what the Xel'Naga look like, but we know it isn't like the Protoss as they were described as completely different from the Xel'Naga. Perhaps there are more similarities in the Zerg....

BTW, in the last book the Zerg assimilate that big blue dog which became a new unit... could be a Zerg unit....

[Deadpool]

Watch the ending of the 2nd Singleplayer Video. f**king Owned.

Hey Deadpool. You sure Duran wasn't referring to the Xel'Naga? You absolutely sure?
that dousnt mean hes working for them i mean hell just cause theres 2 evil forces dousnt mean there workin together

@AnArchY - i think thats a good idea it certainly would add a twist to the game another twist that is


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[ShdwyTemplar]

How can you label the Zerg evil. They are a representation of evil, but, are not in their nature evil. We only label evil as that great aggressor that is attacking us. That does not mean they are evil. They are doing what they do. I could say for all intents purpose the Protoss are evil, but, they're not. I can both disprove and prove this fact. So please do not go around labeling things evil when evil is only a word in all truth.

And please don't double post there is an edit function. If ya haven't gotten one yet then Welcome to the Forums. 8)

[Joneagle_X]

Good post on the nature of evil, Templar.

Evil is whatever happens to be against your agenda or your beliefs. Humans are evil to the Zerg, and so are the Protoss, because they stand in the way of their expansion across the Universe. If the Zerg had beliefs then I would assume the Terran and Protoss would be at odds with it.

"People who call themselves evil are usually anti-social and wish to remain separated from a society in which they do not believe. They are usually good at heart and don't harbor true ill-wishes towards others. It is those who profess themselves to be pure and the pinnacle of humanity that are the most dangerous." - Unknown

[Wlck742]

Talking philosophy now, eh?

[Nikzad]

you are all wrong
Zerg are death incarnate

They are evil. No matter how you Zergophiles (yeah, that's right, I just made up a name for you Zerg players) philosophize they are EEEEEEEEEVIILLL

[ShoGun]

The difference between good and evil, and everything in between is a matter of selflessness, and selfishness no matter how you put your finger around it.

And good summary Joneagle_X, I’ve always seen the Xel'Naga as non-aggressors too. I can't wait to learn what they, and their new creation will look like. There was an artwork picture that may have been a hybrid in a stasis cell, it looked pretty big, and had more Zerg-like features, but it was kind of fuzzy so the details were hard to make out.

[Hadean]

5 bucks says Xel'Naga are goin all original SC protoss-ish and figure the sector will be better off is all races are dead?

[Arachanox]

5 bucks says Xel'Naga are goin all original SC protoss-ish and figure the sector will be better off is all races are dead?


Interesting theory, but what on earth did the Terrans do to deserve being obliterated in the process? Remember, the three races are linked together now; if you try to kill one, you'll end up killing all of them. Besides, the Xel'Naga aren't very aggresive, so I think they'd spare the Zerg and the Protoss just to save the Terrans from an unworthy death.

[GuiMontag]

if the Xel have come to end the cycle i doubt theyd care about a couple of terrans when theres billions back home on earth :P

[slugonice]

I think Duran is a XEL NAGA rogue

[Joneagle_X]

Whatever he is, he's not human. slugonice, please stop using bold text in every post you make. ;)

Supposedly he's still pretending to be under the control of Kerrigan? Or has he decided to command the Terrans despite his being infested?

[Protosscommander]

Well Duran is very mysterious.... man..

[SOGEKING]

Purity of essence for the Zerg, purity of body for the Protoss. Both ingredients given by the Xel'Naga, creators of those races. But .... is it possible that, combined, those "purities" reform the Xel'Naga ? That the hybrid is a Xel'Naga ?

[Yaro]

No the xelnaga wodent want 2 make a new race exacly like temselves- it wod be a pointless waste o effort.

[ShoGun]

I don't think Xel'Naga have any of these traits, I just think they possess the most amount of knowledge in the universe then any other race, which allows them to create these powerful creatures.

[josh]

If what you said is true, then the Zerg are the most intelligent, and powerful race in the universe.

[Inpox]

the xel'naga wanted to create the perfect race = better then themselves

And you have to think about 2 things

1: the xel'naga who created the zerg got destroyed by them in a suprise attack, so this may by means that the xel'naga is physically weak, like the terrans

2: that xel'naga temple on shakuras was everything but weak, so their weapon power is probably very strong

So i think the xel'naga will look more like us humans (hurray)

[BnechbReaker]

the humans may yet be an cast away society that were originally xel'nagas. their memory got wiped clean so there were no records to indicate this

[Inpox]

actually not, in the starcraft universe they have also evolved from monkey's, so it would be more likely if they have had done something with our evolution

[SOGEKING]

This is the official French version : the exact words !!

• Zeratul: " Quoi ?! Je n'ai jamais vu pareille créature ! "

• Computer: Test sur le sujet 29 classifié, hybride Zerg/Protoss en parfaite cryo-hibernation, émanations psioniques réduites.

• Zeratul: � Non . . . �

• Duran: � N'est-ce pas extraordinaire ? �

• Zeratul: " Quoi !? Qui êtes-vous ? �

• Duran: � J'ai porté de nombreux noms durant ce millénaire. On me connaît actuellement sous celui de Samir Duran. �

• Zeratul: �L'accolyte de Kerrigan. Alors, cela fait-il partie de ses plans machiavéliques ? �

• Duran: �Non . . . young Kerrigan could not have engineered this grand experiment, although her rebirth into the Zerg Swarm has sped up my progress. I can assure you that this endeavor is quite beyond her narrow understanding. � [can't remember]

• Zeratul: “ Si vous n'êtes pas le pion de Kerrigan, alors que représentez-vous ?�

• Duran: “Je suis le serviteur d'un pouvoir bien plus grand, a power that has slept for countless ages, and is reflected in the creature within that cell.� [don't remember]

• Zeratul: “ Vous rendez-vous compte de ce que vous venez de créer ? Avez-vous la moindre idée de ce que cet ..."hybride" est capable de faire ?! �

• Duran: “ Bien entendu ! Cette créature est l' accomplissement d'un cycle. Son rôle dans l'odre cosmique a été édifié bien avant la naissance des étoiles. Vous contemplez actuellement le point culminant de votre Histoire. �

• Zeratul: “ Je ne vois lÃ* sinon qu'une abomination ! â€�

• Duran: “Your violence young prodigal is typical, as is your inability to comprehend the greater scheme of things. You can destroy all of the specimens here; it will do you no good, for I have seeded the hybrid on many, many worlds. You will never find them all before they awaken, et quand ils s'éveilleront, l'univers entier en sera bouleversé ..... pour toujours ! "

[ijffdrie]

je ne parle pas français

[SOGEKING]

mais si, tu as très bien écrit ta phrase. :)


I really liked Duran's Speech ! When I saw the first time this scene, and the presence of hybrids, that was the moment I wanted Starcraft 2 !!!

[ijffdrie]

je parle seul trois sentences:

je parle seul trois sentences

voulez vous cou'shez avac moi(dont mind spelling its about the pronounciation)

je ne parle pas francais

[-LT-]

Nitko od vas ne zna pricat Hrvatski. :P

[ijffdrie]

russian?

[josh]

Okay, this is getting way out of hand. ;D

[SOGEKING]

voulez vous cou'shez avac moi(dont mind spelling its about the pronounciation)


LOL "voulez-vous coucher avec moi ?" ;D

I will post soon the exact words in French, in the moments I didn't write.

[beBoy]

I think Xel has neither form of essence nor purity. If a race is so advanced that they could raise up a race and speed up the evolution, they must have studied many other races before which they came to a conclusion of having form of essence and purity. Before a race studies one another for a perfect form, it makes sense that they would study themselves and see if they are the perfect form. The fact that they're trying to raise up (not to create) a race with form of essence and purity shows that Xel has neither of those forms.

[Hadean]

peachka matina, gluup bosnanka. srbski, boi.

Lol. Actually, i'm greek.

All random languages aside. Duran clearly was talking about Xel Naga, end of thread.

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[SOGEKING]

Well, I give you now the EXACT words, with also the EXACT punctuation, of Duran's Speech in French :

-Zeratul : " Je... Je n'ai jamais vu pareille créature... "

-Computer : " Sujet numéro vingt-neuf, classe : Hybride Zerg/Protoss, cryo-hibernation parfaite. Emanations psioniques réduites. "

-Zeratul : " Non... "

-Duran : " N'est-ce pas extraordinaire? "

-Zeratul : " Quoi? Qui êtes-vous? "

-Duran : " J'ai porté de nombreux noms aucours de ce millénaire. On me connaît actuellement sous celui de... Samir Duran.. "

-Zeratul : " L'acolyte de Kerrigan! Cela fait-il partie de ses plans machiavéliques? "

-Duran : " Non, la jeune Kerrigan ne saurait oeuvrer pour une telle expérience. Certes sa renaissance au sein de la Nuée favorise mes desseins. Mais l'ampleur de cette entreprise dépasse de beaucoup son entendement. "

-Zeratul : " Si vous n'êtes pas le pion de Kerrigan, alors que représentez-vous? "

-Duran : " Je suis le serviteur d'un pouvoir bien plus grand. Un pouvoir qui est resté assoupi pendant de nombreux millénaires. Cette créature est le dépositaire de ce pouvoir. "

-Zeratul : " Vous rendez-vous compte de ce que vous venez de créer? Avez-vous la moindre idée de ce que cet... Hybride est capable de faire? "

-Duran : " Bien entendu. Cette créature est l'aboutissement d'un cycle. Son rôle dans l'ordre cosmique était déjÃ* écrit, bien avant la naissance des étoiles. Vous contemplez actuellement le point culminant de votre histoire. "

-Zeratul : " Je ne vois rien d'autre sinon une abomination. "

-Duran : " Votre réaction était prévisible. Tout comme votre incapacité Ã* appréhender une situation qui vous dépasse. Vous pouvez détruire tous les spécimens qui sont réunis ici. Cela ne changera rien. Car un très grand nombre de mondes ont déjÃ* été fertilisés par ces Hybrides. Il vous sera impossible de les retrouver tous avant qu'ils ne s'éveillent... Et quand ils s'éveilleront... l'univers entier en sera bouleversé... pour toujours.. "

[-LT-]

russian?

No, Croatian. Do you know about that language?