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Fenix
07-16-2007, 06:59 AM
Do you believe in ghosts or the supernatural? Have you ever had any experiences with it?
nahh. i don't believe in 'em. i have some biblical verses and scientific explanations to back up my answer. :D lol. what about you?
Fenix
07-16-2007, 07:36 AM
I do, but I don't think in the traditional sense. I believe that the afterlife is located just slightly set off from our physical world, and there is a barrier between them. However, sometimes, in some places, that barrier wears thin. Like old battlegrounds, where so many people passed through the barrier at once, there are gaping holes. Or graveyards where so many spirits are trying to return to life, it's stretched and not as tight. Basic hauntings, such as a single ghost in a home are those with strong enough wills to start tearing their own hole in the barrier.
If you can't grasp my barrier metaphor, try picturing it as a weave of threads.
lol. do you mean there's like a sort of boundary between the physical world and the spiritual world? well i do believe in the afterlife, just not the ghosts. but i really couldn't say that the spirit world is here on earth or somewhere in the universe.
Fenix
07-16-2007, 08:20 AM
Yeah.....I guess you could call it a veil. I don't think there's any grand journey after death, just a sort of phasing into a different existence. A bland one, with none of the vitality of this world, which is why they try to come back, but they rarely can.
paragon
07-16-2007, 01:46 PM
No. And you can't explain/describe anything of the sort no matter how hard you try.
UchihaItachi0129
07-16-2007, 03:50 PM
yes. lol but that of course has to do with my religion so i won't say anything here about why.
Fenix
07-16-2007, 07:28 PM
No. And you can't explain/describe anything of the sort no matter how hard you try.
I think I kinda sorta just did. But, of course, that's my person opinion. And like UchihaItachi (Yes I copy pasted that name) said, I believe it because of my religion.
paragon
07-16-2007, 08:56 PM
I could say that
I believe that aliens are fighting an epic battle located just slightly set off from our physical world, and there is a barrier between them. However, sometimes, in some places, that barrier wears thin. Like old alien battlegrounds, where so many aliens died there and passed through the barrier at once, there are gaping holes. Or other alien staging points where so many aliens are trying to invade this plane, it's stretched and not as tight. Basic alien incursions, such as a single recon team in a home are those with strong enough portal generators to start tearing their own hole in the barrier.
that doesn't mean that I've explained these occurances correctly.
Fenix
07-16-2007, 09:06 PM
Yeah. You could. I couldn't prove you wrong. I never said that was the explanation, just an explanation.
UchihaItachi0129
07-16-2007, 11:54 PM
well i'm sure no HUMAN knows the explantion. so a guess is always fine...unless it's just plain stupid
TerranGod
07-17-2007, 04:08 AM
ghosts...GHOSTS????/ are fake sorry
Wlck742
07-17-2007, 05:45 AM
It really just has to do with religion. I'm atheist so I don't believe in ghosts. Not even the afterlife, really. Ah well.
[LightMare]
07-17-2007, 06:45 AM
i was at a graveyard with my friend and it perpetually scared the **** out of me
Wlck742
07-17-2007, 06:48 AM
The closest encounter I've had with ghosts was probably in F.E.A.R. or Doom or Starcraft or something.
Fenix
07-17-2007, 07:15 AM
Ghosts in SC? Lawl.
paragon
07-17-2007, 01:45 PM
i was at a graveyard with my friend and it perpetually scared the **** out of me
that just means you are paranoid... or jumpy. one of my co workers is extremely jumpy. if someone rings the doorbell to the shop he will jump up and start looking around. same with any other noise. So I told him never to join the military because he would die and be completely useless in a firefight.
believing in ghosts doesn't necessarily involve religion.
Shadowdragon
07-19-2007, 03:41 PM
Ghosts? Sure, why not. After all, ghosts would make life much more intresting. That and I swear the TV must be possessed. That's the only explanation for why it doesn't turn on half the time but has the sounds. And always seems to start on Oprah.
UchihaItachi0129
07-20-2007, 02:38 AM
That and I swear the TV must be possessed. That's the only explanation for why it doesn't turn on half the time but has the sounds.
probably just your tv
And always seems to start on Oprah.
you probably turn it on at the same time everytime and it just happens to be on Oprah.
Whenever my dog starts barking at nothing, I'd think it's a ghost or something....
But personally I don't really believe in ghosts.
Shadowdragon
07-20-2007, 05:17 AM
Can ghosts have schizophrenia? Would the two personalities look any different dead? Seriously, wouldn't there be at least one crazy ghost who thinks he's a dog or something?
UchihaItachi0129
07-20-2007, 08:24 PM
Whenever my dog starts barking at nothing, I'd think it's a ghost or something....
But personally I don't really believe in ghosts.
eh you shouldnt worry about your dog. unless it just gets really weird and doesnt stop
Can ghosts have schizophrenia? Would the two personalities look any different dead? Seriously, wouldn't there be at least one crazy ghost who thinks he's a dog or something?
lol that'd be funny. too bad even if it's true you won't know
ghosts having schizophrenia? lol. so that means we're just delusions to them. lol. oh man my head hurt...
Scarecrow
07-21-2007, 05:07 PM
I'm not going to say that there is nothing supernatural. I've just never encountered something of that sort. It's obvious that there are lots of things we don't understand so..you never know.
danhillman693
07-22-2007, 09:25 PM
I am a strong believer in ghosts, in a Christian sense. Ghosts, I believe, are demons, which are trying to twist your perception of the world and your religion. If you have ever read the Bible, you have probably heard of the story about King David and Elijah. When Elijah died, King David wanted to speak with him again. King David, though, had banned all which doctors out of Israel, found one, and sought to "summon" Elijah's soul. It was not Elijah that David actually summoned. It was a demon. It talked. But it was all rubbish what it was saying.
Warsaw
08-06-2007, 02:03 AM
I dont believe in ghosts or anything supernatural though sometimes i still get afraid when im alone in the dark. That is unless the TV is on because the TV counts as a person and when the TV is on im not alone anymore yay! :thumbup:
ArchLimit
08-06-2007, 02:14 AM
Okay, so here's the deal on my beliefs. I'm quasi-sort of into the idea of a "greater spiritual being or place" but I am in no way affiliated with organized religion of any sort. I sometimes refer to God as that greater spiritual thing but not the one regarded as "God" in the bible.
As far as spirits and ghosts go, I do. It's really funny cuz it depends on the time of the day, lol. Like, if you get me into a real conversation about the philosophy of life 'n all that crap, I could go nuts with it and usually talk for hours. A part of this talk about involve me explaining how ghosts are probably harmless beings who are simply just walking around doing their thing but somehow crossed over here and there at certain places. I think Fenix's depiction of the thread weaving is a great. So it'd be as simple as that...
...UNLESS you get me all scared 'n worked up after playing a game like ExMortis or the Grudge or something like that, and somehow all rational senses go out of my head if I'm ALONE and in the DARK. See, it's not the dark I'm afraid of per se, it's the possibilities of "just what if?" going on when there is no one around to acknowledge anything. It's kind of like, the original 90-100% of my idea that ghosts are just harmless ethereal beings drastically gets overwhelmed to about 10% whereas 90% of this idea that something COULD just be around the corner (why not? it could tilt its head as you're turning the hall and scream bloody murder and rush towards you sideways) and there's no one else to sort of bring you back to your rational side.
It can be the darkest creepiest forest or hell, even a haunted house and I wouldn't be that scared if there was someone with me. Like, even a dog would pretty much take away all my fears. But once I'm alone, i'm pretty well screwed.
Anyone else get what I'm talkin about or can empathize or did I just turn into the only and biggest ***** in this forum?
MarineCorp
08-06-2007, 01:17 PM
Whenever my dog starts barking at nothing, I'd think it's a ghost or something....
But personally I don't really believe in ghosts.
That dude is your dog barking at the devil... freaky isn't it but it could be true plus dogs can probably see angels too since we do not know what they look like but we know that they have wings ;D
PS: i don't believe in ghosts/ supernatural stuffs.. but i think i believe in fast regeneration ;D
danhillman693
08-06-2007, 03:52 PM
Well, it's hard for me to really talk about this here, because I am Christian, (I've just recently switched from private school to public), but I can see many of you have almost similar beliefs as mine.
ShdwyTemplar
08-09-2007, 09:22 PM
Arch I'm 100% with ya their. Total Agreement. 8)
Fenix
08-09-2007, 10:10 PM
Arch, I totally get what you mean. Just during the day, I go with my thread theory....But at night with all the thumps and bumps.....I get rather paranoid. Over-active imagination and all that jazz.
QueenOfBlades
08-09-2007, 10:22 PM
Yes, i believe in some sort of energy or ghosts. Is it people who have passed? I'm not so sure i believe that. My brother and I have discussed the idea of two different timelines crossing with each other. Not dimensions but... actual time. Somehow, in some way, paths cross that shouldnt.
And yes i have had a couple of experiences. Mainly in the old apartment I lived in for 10 years as a kid. I often saw a man sitting on our couch (out of the corner of my eye).
I also had an experience where my parents were out and I was home in my room. I heard the front door and assumed they had arrived. I saw something come into my room and walk towards me. I thought it was my mother, but when i raised my head, it was a woman all in white. I didn't see her very clearly or even dead on but she got to the foot of my bed and dissappeared.
2 minutes later I heard the front door again and this time it was my parents. They totally believed in such things too so they definately believed i saw something, someone, or some form of energy.
My brother and I also experienced a poltergeist sort of event. We were in the same room at the same time and saw one of his cassette tapes slide across the window sill without us anywhere near it. We also saw a few other things rustle like someone was walking past them. We both thought we were crazy until we realized the other person saw it.
We always jokingly said there was a ghost in our apartment, but were never scared and never felt like whatever it was, was there to cause harm.
We moved out about 6 years ago and we are in a private house now. Never really had an experiences here, though it seems my cat often sees things we do not. I think animals are great at sensing that kind of stuff though.
Fenix
08-09-2007, 10:27 PM
The Egyptians revered cats because they believed they could see into the spirit world. Who knows? Maybe the Egyptians were on to something?
I do know that cats are extremely perceptive, and are very in tune with the vibes in a room. If two people are having an argument in a room, and a cat walks in, the cat will generally pick up the mood and become agitated.
PancakeChef
08-09-2007, 11:24 PM
And I thought this was about Ghosts in Starcraft when I first saw the topic :P.
I would like to beleive that there are spirits or beings of energy beyond our knowledge or of another world. The Universe and reality itself is a vast and mysterious place and we know so little. I like to keep my mind open to any possiblity.
We also wonder how and why but do we ever think why not?
Nikzad
08-09-2007, 11:39 PM
yeah cats are crazy smart
there is this cat that wanders the hallways of this nursing home, and when someone is about to die, it crawls up in the person's lap and gets all affectionate
check it out, it's nutso
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6917113.stm
PancakeChef
08-09-2007, 11:44 PM
Thats like a version of the Grimm Reaper, I would hate to be in that nursing home and that cat come in and all and foretell my coming demise.
millions
08-09-2007, 11:50 PM
i as well as PancakeChef though this thread was about Ghost from Sc ........
I dont believe in ghost or supernatural im sorta the see it to believe kind of guy , scientist kind of mentality.
However its does shock me when people believe that lady from Montel WIlliams show something Brown is her name .... she says some crazy stuff about ghost and trolls (it is amusing thou) but sometimes she says like the most logical thing on can expect....for example i remember on the news that a family who had lost their kid for about a week or month and they hired Brown to help them out she said he is dead in the woods... later they found out he was living and had been kidnapped they had rescued him too... good thing the family didnt give up looking for him after what she said...
QueenOfBlades
08-10-2007, 12:20 AM
sylvia brown. my mom and grandmother liked her. they didnt neccesarily believe in everything she said in regards to talking to the dead but they did like theories and stuff she had for things like angels and all that. they read her books. i found it all a bit...i dunno... suspicious. not to say there is no such thing as clairvoyance but i wouldnt think most people would flaunt something like that if it really were true.
millions
08-10-2007, 12:38 AM
i dunno, actually i can see people believing in her theories about angels and talking to the otherside it gives people a sense of spirituality and hope which is ok in my book..........but not my sorta thing personally i like to wonder about things far far away in space like if there is a galaxy which has the same conditions as earth in which some life form has evolved to a reasonable being like us, or whats in the depths of the oceans where there is tons of pressure no light and low oxygen......sorry im geekin out lol
jakjak42
08-10-2007, 12:53 AM
I personally belive in ghosts and spiritual relations like that i recently went to a phychic fair and was told that i am a warlock and i belive them. I dont tell anyone this because they will think im mental but im online nobody noes me so i dont care
Fenix
08-10-2007, 01:45 AM
Um....I wouldn't be too proud of that.....The archaic definition of a warlock is an oathbreaker.
millions
08-10-2007, 02:03 AM
lol... man thats rough im pretty sure he was really thrilled about that too and i did not know that about warlock man i should really learn some etymology it can help out in some situations.
jakjak42
08-10-2007, 02:13 AM
I dont care that it mean oathbreaker but ive heard it before what does exactly mean from the sounds of it, it sounds like i break promises. but anyways sounds cool and mean that i got phychic feeling.
if u belive in that stuff
Protosscommander
08-16-2007, 08:10 AM
My religion does not believed in the ghost and belief because in or religion ghost are not real and some people says that there are too many ghost specially in the palce that there are no too many people but once youve seen a ghost or i mean for example one of your relatives died and you saw them the thing you see is not your relative it Satan who pretending as your relative so dont believed and dont be afraid just always trust in our almighty God and he will guide you whever you go always pray to him akey God Bless Us all :-)
ArchLimit
08-16-2007, 09:40 AM
Alright, here's a lil story that I think might tickle the fancy of those who might believe in the supernatural.
This happened to my uncle-in-law, and family stories passed down are always the best. Anyway, when he was a kid, like, 10 years old or so back in China, he had a friend that would come and knock on his door every morning to get him to go to school. Every morning, on time, a very set routine.
Anyway, this best friend of his and him were hanging out one night kinda late and the friend asked him if he wanted to go to the lake, but he said "naw it's gettin' late, I'll just head home." So the friend went alone and he went home to bed. The next morning, he heard the same knock on the door and his friend's voice goin "Hey! C'mon, let's get goin!" So he opens and door.
His friend is nowhere in sight. Only a very very white rabbit with eyes that were apparently incredibly red, like blood and almost incandescent. He doesn't understand what's going on at all, so he just went to school.
After he got there, friends and students were talking about something big that happened and he found that his best friend had drowned in the lake the night before.
I couldn't sleep for a few days after hearing that story... heh...
Fenix
08-16-2007, 11:47 AM
Jeez, ArchLimit....That story with your avi. Freaky.
StarCraft144000
08-17-2007, 12:17 AM
Nope man ghosts dont exist its just your mind messing with you.
Wlck742
08-17-2007, 07:24 PM
You should write a book, Archlimit. That's like Steven King material.
ArchLimit
08-17-2007, 07:35 PM
Haha, if only I came up with it. I didn't. Which makes it extra scary cuz it was just my grandmother who told it to me, and she's a straight arrow. Wouldn't make crap up at all just for a good fright.
AdmiralAckbar
08-19-2007, 05:58 PM
Anyone who believes in ghosts has something seriously wrong with their brain.
Chris Benoit
08-19-2007, 06:55 PM
I agree, believing in ghosts is up there with believing in Big Foot, the Tooth Fairy, and Jesus.
I was shocked and very disappointed when I saw the results of this poll showed almost half of this board believes in ghosts.
ToonMOG
08-19-2007, 07:29 PM
Before a few years ago I would say that I didn't, but I live near this old mining town known as Virginia City and I've seen some things that are very hard to explain in the traditional sense. And if want to rationalize it 10 years ago people who believed in the giant squid were thought to be crazy and 5 years ago people who thought there could be life on other planets were crazy, now NASA seems to have found fossils of single celled alien organisms on mars.
So, in conclusion I wouldn't limit myself, because there is a lot of stuff that has been unexplored/unexplained... so I'd say yes i guess i do believe in ghosts =P
StarCraft144000
08-19-2007, 07:40 PM
Ok to tell you all (who dont know) there is a new plant we have seen satellites have discover a athougher plant (which we call new earth) it has grass and water and so on so we maybe not alone....
AdmiralAckbar
08-19-2007, 08:13 PM
And if want to rationalize it 10 years ago people who believed in the giant squid were thought to be crazy
"Japetus Steenstrup wrote a number of papers on giant squid in the 1850s. He first used the term "Architeuthis" (mistakenly spelled Architeuthus) in a paper in 1857. A portion of a giant squid was secured by the French gunboat Alecton in 1861 leading to wider recognition of the genus in the scientific community. From 1870 to 1880, many squid were stranded on the shores of Newfoundland. For example, a specimen washed ashore in Thimble Tickle Bay, Newfoundland on November 2, 1878; its mantle was reported to be 6.1 m (20 ft) long, with one tentacle 10.7 m (35 ft) long, and it was estimated as weighing 2.2 tonnes."
The giant squid is accepted scientific fact and has been so for over a hundred years, they just havent been seen ALIVE untill recently. Only some backwoods incest yokel like yourself believe in the existance of this animal until ten years ago.
And life on other planets is scientifically explainable and plausible; life is proven to exist on our planet, so it could exist somewhere else. With the trillions of planets in the universe it makes sense that life would appear on more than one (though it is highly unlikely that life exists within our own solar system). Ghosts are not proven to exist anywhere and there is NO evidence of them
StarCraft144000
08-19-2007, 08:20 PM
Anybody that sees ghosts might be those people that see stuff (taking bad drugs and stuff makes you have this) that is not there and other people that see them might be tricked by there mind trust me I have been tricked in fact all of us had at least once.
ToonMOG
08-19-2007, 08:24 PM
it's amazing how passionate some people get over a simple discussion such as this, almost silly.
Chris Benoit
08-19-2007, 08:49 PM
Comparing ghosts to alien life is pretty laughable. "Trillions of planets" is actually an understatement. There are 10^21 or 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars estimated to exist in our universe. The majority of those stars has atleast one planet. The odds of another planet with the elements to support life, large enough to hold an atmosphere yet not so large its gravity is crippling, close enough to its star that it gets enough sunlight and warmth yet not so close it is torrid, and has been left long enough for life to develope and evolve is overwhelming. In fact, odds are there are several thousands of planets with life as advanced or more advanced than humans, let alone simple unicellular organisms.
Now believing that there are entities, perhaps even people long dead in a new 'form', made of an element or elements unkown to us, with the ability to walk through walls and move objects, become visible or invisible at will, capable of acknowledging our presence and even to 'speak' to us is simply ridiculous and is the mark of a person with an inferior and childlike brain.
kenshin72
08-19-2007, 09:34 PM
I got a story about ghosts
When i was small and massing my whole entire army, it was consist of; a fleet of air units such carriers,corsairs,arbiters and some scouts. As for my ground units they were zealots, dragoons,high templars and some dark archons. then suddenly it came in the screen nuclear launch detected.
soon a little thing was going down very very slowly in the ground and next thing i know my army was gone...
freaky eh
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