Introducing "Terrans" new Armory [Archive]

taz

07-20-2007, 05:23 AM

just seen the post in battle.net and...well... i thought you guys might be interested!

with better pics, the new units are:

Banshee
Only Ground attack available (Think ground version of Valkyrie in SC1) And also has Cloak ability
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3555/111gt7.jpg

Viking
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6113/112sn1.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3648/114sj1.jpg

Cobra
The terran unit look like vulture, shown another screen shot days ago
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4943/113gm4.jpg

Thor
Thor do not produced from any building, it directly built from SCV's construction
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3672/115hr0.jpg

reapers
Reapers have mines, that works similar as spider mine in SC1
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4849/117mn9.jpg

for more pics of terran units check out this link:
http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?fn=sc-general&t=211431&p=1&#post211431 (http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?fn=sc-general&t=211431&p=1&#post211431)

Bonus 300 minerals for a great info.

kehmdaddy

07-20-2007, 05:25 AM

If this is real, incredible find... wow, freakin sick! :powerup:
Good job, newcomer. And wow, Thor built by the SCV itself? Ghosts can truly snipe! Ahhh
I love you!
-edit- The nuke's explosion is simply massive... if they're really this powerful that's going to be awesome since they're so hard to use.
The add-ons work exactly how I imagined them, same add-ons for each building you have to choose your way.
This is freaking fantastic. I think Blizzard has stolen my heart with the Terran... they just look too cool. The only unit I'm not so sure of is the Cobra, although we have no information about how it works. Just something about it... I don't know. The banshees are cool, this makes me believe even more strongly that the Viking's flyer mode is anti-air only. 15 hitpoints for marines from the shield!!! Oh boy... reaper mines, people have been expecting this somewhat, that's going to make them far more useful. Terran defense... you better watch out for. That fortress looks pretty mean in that screenshot... and the Thor's got a long range of fire.
-edit2-
just realized the Banshee can cloak... holy christ... sounds like cloaked guardians to me almost...

DDDx

07-20-2007, 05:30 AM

That is cool man great find.

BaneOfHumanity

07-20-2007, 05:31 AM

judging by the few pics of the Thor on that link where you got theses...it seems that the Thor is a ultimate unit almost...

taz

07-20-2007, 05:34 AM

i dont dont think thor is built from an SCV, i thinks it built "by" an SCV, if what you say its true...omg just imagine how many SCV's you need to get a thor (might as well call it vultran :P)

...it seems that the Thor is a ultimate unit almost...

i'm not sure if i quite understand u? Blizzard quite clearly said that thor is an ultimate unit, i think they added it for extra muscle

kehmdaddy

07-20-2007, 05:37 AM

I meant by when I said from, I have corrected it in my first post. All the old units for Terran seem even more useful than before, and the new ones are just sick. Ghosts are going to be so much more useful than before with their critical damage sniping ability. I'm finally sold on Reaper's usefulness... I was skeptical, they just seemed like weaker marines who could jump around, but now, with mines, they're good for defense and all sorts of strategies... mad props taz, mad props Blizzard!
-edit-
The reaper is a firebat, a vulture, and a dude with a freakin jetpack all in one!!!

Ych9

07-20-2007, 05:38 AM

%(&^*O^&)(*&)^(*&%&(*%&%*&)%(*&^ OMFG OMFG
WOW MY GOD. I think I am going to have a mental breakdown. I need some time to absorb. I will post my opinions later. I need to take a real good look at these new stuff first.

By the way. You just earned yourself some major :powerup: :powerup: :powerup:
Excellent Find.

generalrievous

07-20-2007, 05:41 AM

aye good finds just saw them on bnet nice to see the bomber from the artwork and im not sure about the others though dont like how the thor gets built just seems very SupComish

Ych9

07-20-2007, 05:45 AM

Here is some info with full translation
http://www.sc2armory.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=2343#p2343

BaneOfHumanity

07-20-2007, 05:47 AM

i...it seems that the Thor is a ultimate unit almost...

i'm not sure if i quite understand u? Blizzard quite clearly said that thor is an ultimate unit, i think they added it for extra muscle

uh...ok I didnt read that....nm then...

kehmdaddy

07-20-2007, 05:49 AM

Ych9, you're a wonderful person. A great find by you as well! And Thor was said NOT to be an ultimate unit. Don't know where you think you heard that... The Terran add-ons are such an incredibly cool idea. The Reactor add-on allowing two units to be built at once! Wow, that's nuts. I'm pretty sure I'm going to play Terran when this game comes out, and from the looks of it, it seems to be further along than I had imagined!
-edit-
The plasma injection ability of the Battlecruiser has a strange name, if that's the name of the upgrade and it simply lets it fire at more targets, then that'd be cool. But if it's another Yamato gun-esque ability, I find that a little strange.

taz

07-20-2007, 05:53 AM

hehe beat me by a few secs Ych9 nice find!

one part that i'm reeeally wondering about is:

"Tech-Center and Reactor / Addons (Tech Render)
Tech-center allows the production of higher tier and tech units. Reactor allows units to be built two at a time, instead of the usual one at a time. But you can only have one at a time, so you cannot train 2 high tech units at once. Also all buildings can use the same addons and mismatch."

does that mean add-ons come only in two looks (no more dstinctive add- ons for each building)

oh & btw, in this pic you can see the new war acadamy on the top-right corner
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6231/2007072000001121be0.gif

kehmdaddy

07-20-2007, 05:56 AM

I believe it does mean no distinct looks for each building's add-ons. And you're a little too late on the sc2armory.com info, Ych9 found that. You two are on fire though! I can't wait to go Barracks with reactor add-ons, pumping out shielded Marines with the mine-laying, fire shooting Reapers! If you couldn't tell, I'm pretty excited about this. And I think if you're not, you're not a real Starcraft fan =P :P =P :thumbup: :thumbup:
-edit- The Reactor is also in that picture, it's not featured in any of the others. It's the Barracks' add-on smack dab in the middle. Annnnd it seems the Terrans can also build some sort of cannon defense structure. Check out the strange, darker building next to the Supply Depots. It basically looks like a cannon tower.

ArchLimit

07-20-2007, 06:12 AM

Great Job on the terrific find, Taz! That's pretty amazing. I wonder how the Ghosts will "Snipe." I remember there was some game a few years back where you could literally go from 1st person to map view in an RTS game. I doubt they'd incorporate an entire 1st person view just for the Ghost, but on the other hand since it's 3D and the camera is more or less rotatable I don't think it's impossible; just unlikely. That'd be so sweet tho, if, while stationary, you could sort of go through the lens of the Ghost and do some real damage; call it extreme "micromanaging."

Okay, I think I'm getting ahead of myself, haha.

So the Thor IS or IS NOT the Terran ultimate unit? I saw in earlier posts that only the Protoss will have an ultimate unit... anyone know for sure?

kehmdaddy

07-20-2007, 06:17 AM

Karune said in a post on it that the first Swedish translated leak of the Thor was an exaggeration... it will apparently be very slow to move and turn, just have a huge amount of firepower. It is NOT an Ultimate Unit. As for the Ghost sniping, I think that would really piss of the Korean players because it would be so hard to go back and forth. I could be wrong though. I think it would just be more of a bother, I'd prefer if they just had a way to snipe with a long ass range, long cooldown, and really just rip apart biological units.

Itsmyship

07-20-2007, 06:22 AM

Yeah, Thor won't be a super unit, Blizz already said the races aren't getting superunits other than Toss. As for the Ghost sniping, I love it. I can't wait to have the set positions and everything, it'll feel like the Toss version of the Dark Templar in terms of dmg against units. My question is is the Banshee the bomber that everyone's been wanting so far?

ArchLimit

07-20-2007, 06:24 AM

Yea, you're probably right, Khemdaddy. I'm happy with the units as is. Thanks for clearing up the Thor thing. So I guess the other races won't have ultimate units. Boo. On the other hand, I'm guessing the ability to build numerous Thors would balance out a single ultimate unit like the Mothership.

Alukard

07-20-2007, 06:25 AM

this should be moves into the news....

Itsmyship

07-20-2007, 06:27 AM

Oh and on a sidenote, love the sig Archlimit :)

kehmdaddy

07-20-2007, 06:32 AM

I was going to say the same thing, that sig is sick as hell, Archlimit.
In one of the screenshots, captioned Terran Ambush, we can see a Banshee/Reaper raid upon a small Protoss base. It's hard to see the Banshee's attack, but maybe some one with better eyes could take a good look at it. It doesn't look like the area of effect attack similar to the Valkyrie like the info says, but maybe that's an activated ability or it only does that against units. I'm not sure if it's exactly the bomber that everyone really wants, but it should fit the role very well since it sounds like it has a strong siege/area of effect attack and can cloak. I think it's going to be a great unit.

ArchLimit

07-20-2007, 06:38 AM

Hey thanks for the compliments guys. I've been working on it in Maya for the last couple days so it's really flattering to hear you like it :)

Remy

07-20-2007, 06:45 AM

Good job on the juicy info Taz, and welcome to the forums. You and Ych9 are just out to give everyone massive heart attacks. Keep it up, you guys are rocking.

Not to pressure anyone, but I'm just sooooooo ready for any little bit of Zerg info. I've been ready, so please. :upset:

So Banshee is what that thing was, I've been wondering since day one.

Oh, I gotta throw another one in there. Badass sig ArchLimit. Nice to see a good looking DT again, instead of the ugly one in SC2.

kehmdaddy

07-20-2007, 06:49 AM

Amen, Remy, the SC2 DT is just shameful as of now. I'm sure they well fix its look though, people will start going wild over it just like the Siege Tanks. The Zerg info will come, have no fear ;D, and I'm sure that it'll be as incredibly mind-blowing as all of this Terran stuff is. Blizz is really hitting the unique race thing home, doing a damn good job of it too. I'm pumped.

Itsmyship

07-20-2007, 06:53 AM

Hahaha!! This week has just been awesome for news! The first set of Terran units, these set of Terran units, Siege Tank getting remodled, Soul Hunter gettin the guillotine....I'm so happy right now! I want Blizzcon to come soon so i can see the gameplay for the Terran!! (im guessing that's what's coming)

kehmdaddy

07-20-2007, 06:56 AM

I agree 100%. Blizzard is on the ball this time around, not holding back any punches. To make up for the poor showing at E3, we're getting hit left and right with all sorts of "leaks" and good news. I really can't wait to see a gameplay video with the new Terran forces. When is Blizzcon exactly? I'm not on the ball about that kind of stuff...

Remy

07-20-2007, 07:00 AM

Soul Hunter gettin the guillotine

Did they can the Soul Hunter?

ArchLimit

07-20-2007, 07:01 AM

Yes, Remy, the Soul Hunter didn't make the cut. I'm glad.

kehmdaddy

07-20-2007, 07:01 AM

Did they can the Soul Hunter?
Yes, they have indeed. Check the frontpage, Cavez(I think?) on battle.net forums had a little spiel about unit training camp and gave us the news that the Soul Hunter had indeed not made it through.

[LightMare]

07-20-2007, 07:41 AM

the viking is a transformer :o

Fenix

07-20-2007, 07:42 AM

I....I think I love this thread.....Dear sweet Lord, the Terrans are simply....Amazing....I'm speechless.....

:o

Remy

07-20-2007, 07:43 AM

I've located and read through the main Korean article. The primary source claims the article was exclusive.
The site is Daum.net which is pretty legit and main stream for the most part, but I can't verify if it is exclusive or accurate. The journalist who wrote it up aslo isn't a SC gamer, I can tell, but I'll do my best to get the gist of it across.

If any of this is already known or already up somewhere I apologize, let me know if that's the case.

- The Ghost as an ability to summon an air-drop pod of some kind where upon landing, you get 6 marines ready to go on the battle field.

- The BC has some kind of AoE plasma attack ability that can target ground.

- The Viking is built at the factory, the air form requires a researched upgrade. Can attack ground in ground form and attack air in air form. Is weak vs armored units.

- The Cobra can attack while moving without stopping, a strength when facing slow units.

- The CC can load 5 SCVs to protect them like a bunker, but also lift off with 5 SCVs loaded for easier expansion.

- The Planetary Fortress can target multiple units at once. Holy crap(<--- that one's me).

- The Bunker can still only load 4 units.

Again, if all this is old news, I apologize.

Itsmyship

07-20-2007, 07:46 AM

Hell its new to me...Hahaha I just LOVE the covert opness of the ghosts!! I'm guessing the marines though have to be already made though, if not, then that's MY holy carp :P

I expected Viking to have to be upgradeable in some way, i thought it would have been ground form though.

I don't know what to think of Cobra though...

[LightMare]

07-20-2007, 07:48 AM

Itsmyship

07-20-2007, 07:49 AM

Mass Banshee and Starscreams!!!! *passes out*

Remy

07-20-2007, 07:53 AM

The Viking would be a direct replacement of both the goliath and the valkyrie.

The banshee IMO, might be a toy for koreans. Koreans like things that have high mobility and high maneuverability. I'm also genetically incapable of not loving muta and vulture for that reason.

Itsmyship

07-20-2007, 07:59 AM

Has the skills of the Goliath AND the Valkyrie, my two favorite Terran units!!! I'm getting EXTREMELY excited for the Terrran!!

Hehe, I just can't get enough of the Viking and Banshee...the two units that i wanted to see the most :P

[LightMare]

07-20-2007, 08:00 AM

well, this cobra business. you don't have to micro it, because it moves all the time? sweet!

Dreadnought

07-20-2007, 08:00 AM

ZOMGWTFBBQPWNAGETECTONICBURLS!!!
Terrans are transformers going burls!
All their units can adapt to almost any situatiom.
Blizzard has the right idea. Make every race seem unbalanced by rocking soo much.

Ych9

07-20-2007, 08:08 AM

Excellent find Remy.
I will be editing my Terran Unit/Mechanic post.

Remy

07-20-2007, 08:16 AM

[LightMare]

07-20-2007, 08:19 AM

well, this cobra business. you don't have to micro it, because it moves all the time? sweet!

Actually, I think that will be more reason to micro it. It's what you had before with high mobility ranged units, but now it's a little better against chasing melee units. Ability to micro will still be apparent with novice vs veteran IMO.

OH i get it. when you move it, it attacks. ok. in my noob days, i used to just mass attack and leave them at the hands of my skilled opponents, until someone showed me the light
:P

kehmdaddy

07-20-2007, 08:21 AM

Wow, good find Remy. The Ghost air drop sounds amazing, that must be the "extra unnamed ability" that sc2armory.com mentioned. Cobra and Planetary Fortress are gonna be hawt. So pumped for BlizzCon... just show me a long Terran vs Protoss gameplay, and throw in some cool new Zergies =D :good:

Fenix

07-20-2007, 08:23 AM

just show me a long Terran vs Protoss gameplay, and throw in some cool new Zergies =D :good:

Lol, didn't you watch that South Korean teaser? Like, the first vid they put out?

Remy

07-20-2007, 08:25 AM

Oops, I forgot something.

- The Sensor Dome was described as a detector, it upgrades to the Radar Dome. The Radar Dome can detect units with a greater radius, even where the map isn't revealed. However, the location of the Dome is revealed to opponents, so they can try to sneak around it.

Oh, and Marine upgrade is extra 15 HP.

kehmdaddy

07-20-2007, 08:27 AM

Ych9

07-20-2007, 08:47 AM

I meant a new one =D
I need to see the new Terran toys in action- this time I meant have the commentator showing off the Terran guys and attacking a bunch of Protoss units. Basically, show me an army of Thors, Reapers, Banshees, Vikings, and Ghosts against Dark Templar, Stalkers, Colossi, Tempests, Twilight Archons, and a Mothership.

That would be a good idea.
But I think what Blizzard should do is to have a commentator showing off the Terrans, like you stated, but against the Zergs. Of course, we will see some of the basic Zerg units like the Hydralisks. It would be kind of like the Terrans at WWII.

Fenix

07-20-2007, 08:54 AM

Invasion of Normandy, Mar Sara style.

Yes, I use Mar Sara a lot. Yes, I know Mar Sara was scorched. But it's the coolest sounded Terran world IMO

Exvasion

07-20-2007, 10:13 AM

I wonder if you will be able to put a Thor in a dropship....*evil laugh*

Dreadnought

07-20-2007, 10:17 AM

I was wondering that myself... How can u transport Thor on an island map? (he has jump packs 8O)

tweakismyname

07-20-2007, 10:28 AM

hmm i bet thor will be too big for a dropship.

bomber plane huh? wonder if we can make it drop nukes. *Muahahahah*

so the reapers can lay mines thats gonna be sweet expecialy if they are cheap to produce

Exvasion

07-20-2007, 10:31 AM

Maybe it will take like two dropships to carry him in tow or something; maybe you can disassemble him idk. But he is definitely bigger than a dropship lol.

Exterranminator

07-20-2007, 10:52 AM

New terran units rape all! But i'm just wonder if terrans will have a long-range anti-air ground units like Goliaths...i gues they are weaker now in ground vs air and much stronger in air vs ground. I like it :)
Make it happen.

I dont like radar dome thouth. Now unexpected attacks against terrans seems to be be extremely difficult.