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Ych9
07-22-2007, 05:21 AM
Since the release of the German magazine, it is clear that they have stated that the Zergs are still only in concept stage. From my understanding, I do not think this is the case.

Rewind back to WWII, and take a look at this.
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/850/850126/vids_1.html

Watch the International Round Table video and forward to the 1 min 40 sec mark. Rob Pardo said that they are very far along and could play the game multiplayer with all 3 races. If what Rob Pardo meant was true, then the Zergs are probably not in concept stage anymore.

That means, the German magazine and Blizzard are contradicting themselves. From my understand, I believe what the German magazine meant was that the Zergs are probably not very polished as of yet. They would still need to add stuff here, and there. But I seriously don't think that the Zergs only got the Zerglings and Mutalisks done as of now.

Hopefully, we will learn more about this at BlizzConn.

Star-Crap
07-22-2007, 05:24 AM
i hope your right my good man

DDDx
07-22-2007, 05:39 AM
Maby they can play all three races, but they dont like the way the zerg looks so maby thats why there still in there concept stage. becuase you saw how some units looked realy bad.

Star-Crap
07-22-2007, 05:45 AM
i dont really like the new zergling look. they could lose the wings unless their gonna need them for something special

Ych9
07-22-2007, 05:56 AM
Maby they can play all three races, but they dont like the way the zerg looks so maby thats why there still in there concept stage. becuase you saw how some units looked realy bad.


True. But I don't think what the German magazine saying that only the Zerglings and Mutalisks are finished is true. Because if all 3 races are playable through multiplayer, Zergs got to have more than Zerglings and Mutalisks.

tweakismyname
07-22-2007, 06:12 AM
i dont really like the new zergling look. they could lose the wings unless their gonna need them for something special

lol totaly i liked the old zergling look, like a crazed dog of doom.

i bet you could play as zerg but some of the units are still pollygons or something

Oh no your square is attacking my rectangle!

GuiMontag
07-22-2007, 06:15 AM
what the german article meant was that the only two zerg units that are presentable to the public atm are the zergling and mutalisk. The zerg are probably in the begining of a sweep, with the terrans just being finished 2 weeks ago

Star-Crap
07-22-2007, 06:20 AM
what the german article meant was that the only two zerg units that are presentable to the public atm are the zergling and mutalisk. The zerg are probably in the begining of a sweep, with the terrans just being finished 2 weeks ago


I dont think their done with any of them. Remember how they just recently got rid of the soul hunters? the same can happen with any of the 3 again

GuiMontag
07-22-2007, 07:03 AM
the way blizzard works is they do a sweep of one race at a time, at WW1 they would have been in the middle of doing a terran sweep, and they will either be on to zerg or finishing off terran atm. When all races have finished a sweeping cycle they will do another, and then another.

Frost
07-22-2007, 07:33 AM
Oh no your square is attacking my rectangle!
rofl ,holy crap - you just destroyed my circle!! I really liked the old look of the zergling as well, when i see them now it just doesn't feel the same. And i hope this information is true, i really want to see the zerg side so i can pick between them and the Protoss.

Major Willy
07-22-2007, 07:36 AM
HEXAGON RUSH.

C'mon Blizzard. Just have one untrustworthy employee stay late one night uploading videos onto YouTube.

zeratul11
07-22-2007, 02:00 PM
concept for the zerg may also mean balancing and determining what looks right for starcraft 2. i think they are already done 50% of the zerg.

Hadean
07-22-2007, 03:23 PM
DOPE. Ych9 you rock.

capthavic
07-22-2007, 06:10 PM
True. But I don't think what the German magazine saying that only the Zerglings and Mutalisks are finished is true. Because if all 3 races are playable through multiplayer, Zergs got to have more than Zerglings and Mutalisks.


Well there is a big difference between playable and finished. They may have a "first draft" zerg army but the units are nowhere near as developed or balanced as the other 2 races.

Anyway the majority of the info we have is from roughly translated magazine articles. There is a good chance that things were lost in translation, changed since it was written, or that they were simply wrong.

Griffith
07-22-2007, 06:36 PM
I hope the German guy is wrong, I find it difficult to believe that they've been in production for like 3-4 years if not more and just starting with the zerg. This guy also says in the article that overall the game is 30% finished which is a pretty retarded number considering the gameplay videos we've seen.

Anyway, Rob Pardo is a way more reliable source and since he said that we shouldn't be too worried.

Lemmy
07-22-2007, 07:38 PM
This guy also says in the article that overall the game is 30% finished which is a pretty retarded number considering the gameplay videos we've seen.

Remember its not only multiplayer. A story, cinematics, campaign creating, voicing, portraiting, making a user friendly editor. Things like that take time and although we dont know for sure whats the progress with the single player part, I assume that its more or less advanced, since there are already some new characters like the Tychus Findlay person, but... what else do we know?

Itsmyship
07-22-2007, 07:48 PM
I highly doubt that the zerg are even close to done. Of all the races, zerg are probably the most complicated to make. I'd say only about 30% of zerg is atm concept. At the most 50%.

Lemmy
07-22-2007, 08:17 PM
I want creep sliding down through ramps :)

generalrievous
07-22-2007, 09:00 PM
Its funny how they said that when blizz has already confirmed the fact that they can play all 3 races in multiplayer

ArchLimit
07-22-2007, 09:02 PM
I hope the German guy is wrong, I find it difficult to believe that they've been in production for like 3-4 years if not more and just starting with the zerg. This guy also says in the article that overall the game is 30% finished which is a pretty retarded number considering the gameplay videos we've seen.

Anyway, Rob Pardo is a way more reliable source and since he said that we shouldn't be too worried.


Not to be too pessimistic, Griffith, but even if we saw demo videos of all three races a 30% completion of the game as a whole still wouldn't be too far-fetched. As with anything, the hardest and most painstaking task of any major project like this is fine-tuning and polishing; often times resulting in remaking a whole portion of what was already "finished."

While I do believe that after 4 in the making that the Zerg units should be at least existent and playable, I have my doubts on whether or not they're nearly as flushed out as the other two races; and as a consequences not displayable to the public without receiving a ton of negative reviews which would be premature anyway.

My hope/guess is that the Zerg is still in the "refinement" stages, that they more or less the whole arsenal of units for the race, and that the game will be released at the end of 2008 earliest.

PhantomFF
07-22-2007, 09:16 PM
I'm pretty sure the Zerg are more complete then we think atm...

Blizzard actually isn't bad at keeping a few neat suprises for us :P

I dont think the Zerg are actually close to done of course, but I do beleive that they have a decent number of units/buildings figured out at this point.

Remy
07-25-2007, 01:40 PM
I'm definitely with Ych9 on this one. There ain't no way in hell that all they've got is ling, muta, bling, and nydus.

Screw the German magazine.

slugonice
08-13-2007, 01:24 PM
They're just polishing that's all

Hadean
08-13-2007, 03:21 PM
agreed with Remi and ych9. After how many alleged years they've been working on this, theres no way in hell Zerg could still be in the development cycle. Thats just. Not human.

Eye_Carumba
08-13-2007, 03:40 PM
They wouldn't risk themselves to have a deadline without having a certainty that all the 3 races had enough to be played with. Like it or not, now that they are revealing units, structures and mechanics one by one, they cannot delay too much the release of the game. If it doesn't get released in 2008, it would make Blizzard look bad, like they say too much and do too little, specially after 'Starcraft: Ghost' was so much talked about and never got to the stores. They're in no position to announce another game and don't release it.

Here's what I think is going on: if they wait till 3 months before the game goes to the stores, they will have to waste tons of money into advertising, and letting the world know that Starcraft 2 was finally coming! Some people would still rush to the markets, but many would still have to wait for it's price to lower so they can buy it, as they wouldn't be expecting it.

However, by slowly revealing aspects of the game in events, they let the mouth-to-mouth do most of their work, and let the fans do the propaganda. Slowly ppl will end up hearing about the game, and by the time they release it, it will be enoughly famous to hit the jackpot 10x more then if they were to announce it right on time. Plus, fans that were expecting it, would have saved money in advance (as I am) so they can buy it as soon as it's released, increasing even further the sales.

Also, what we do here, about discussing the game and it's changes, it's also very good for them. They don't have to over-explain why they did these and those changes, and have to deal with many unsatisfied costumers to sell their product. Presenting it's product real soon, they can allow people to get used to the changes made, and give the game credit sooner.

"But why would they want an enormous first week/month sales?", because it would increase greatly Blizzard's reputation, and that would be great for the company.

BnechbReaker
08-13-2007, 03:47 PM
hydras and ovies must have been done

slugonice
08-14-2007, 10:28 AM
I agree with Eye Carumba. It's a marketing strategy that saves HELL a lotta money.
That money goes to MAKING SC2 better rather than procrastinated advertising

Major Willy
08-14-2007, 05:44 PM
Blizzard doesn't need money when there's millions of people giving up $15 a month.

Remy
08-16-2007, 07:59 AM
Ain't it like 9 million mindless zombies? My wife is one of 'em.