Does rock music make people more violent?

[Lemmy]

I like rock (All types, tho i dont like blues and jazz) and a bit of metal. Also I sort of like punk music, tho i dont listen too much. The point is: Does violent music make people more violent?

I say yes. Rock music makes people more violent. Not only kids, tho they are more exposed to the influence, but everyone. Even a nun can become a bat wielding skullbreaker if she listens to Slayer every morning.

But young people doesnt tend to agree. I say it does.

[Fenix]

Same thing with video games here. If listening to music (As well as playing games) makes you more incined towards violence, then it was already in your mind, and would've expressed itself eventually. Blaming it on music (Or games) just gives people a scapegoat.
I myself am a metalhead, and I have never raised hand against another in anger. I would go so far as to say I am a pacifist, though if set upon, I would defend myself.

[generalrievous]

meh people who say that violence in anyway can influence anyone else who witnesses it to do so is just retarded, It depends on the individual and rather they have self control or not

[Scarecrow]

Haha. If you are worried about rock you propably haven't heard of Cannibal Corpse and such.

[Dreadnought]

I'm a metalhead too ;) but im also a â€* lol (i know wierd combo. i just listen to inflames because they have no cussing or bad lyrics)
Unless a game is promoting illegal activity (Grand Theft Auto) and does relate to our world, I don't think it affects you at all. A person has to have self control as said b4 :good: If a parent cant teach their children the difference between fake and real life THATS PATHETIC!

[Lemmy]

Haha. If you are worried about rock you propably haven't heard of Cannibal Corpse and such.


I have. I've listened to even heavier crap, like Gorgoroth, Sodom and some other ilustrous bands. I dont like the ultra heavy stuff tho. Id rather stick to things that sound good.
But about games and music, I dont mean plain agression against the world, that would be too much. Its something more subtle.

[Wlck742]

As Fenix just said, this is just a scapegoat to blame anger and violence on. I happen to be a metalhead as well, and I listen to Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax, death metal, thrash metal, even rap metal (Rage Against the Machine! Yeah!), and yet I haven't actually beaten random people up or anything. To defend myself, yes, I will become violent if need be, but aside from the friendly punches on the shoulder to and from friends, I so far haven't experienced any kind of anger/violence problems, as have most other metalheads. A lot of metal artists are actually quite nice.

[CodyFallsForth]

In a way; Yes.

If i'm at a show, and there is a breakdown, or just a brutal part of a song, i instantly want to mosh if there is a pit. If there isn't, i'll help make one.

But if i knock someone down, i instantly reach to pick them up, and i'd never fight someone because of the music.

[SirBaron]

The only thing that can induce violence into human beings is the lack of regular intercourse (why do you think catholic priests keep shouting about sinners burning in hell, etc... pretty obvious, eh?)

Or in my case, a lack of listening to The Who. Or GnR. Or the Pogues. Or a lack of playing SC.

Jokes aside, no, rock music doesn't induce violence into people, i for example listen to rock music all the time, and i'm one of those "nice intellectual guys" who mostly sit home and read books etc etc.

A nice example of Fenix's scapegoat statement is the movie Bowling for Columbine, after those kids at Columbine went zerker stance the news spread word that their interest in rock music was behind the slaughter, and went after Marilyn Manson, for example (who ain't really violent in personal). While everyone was going for a scapegoat, they oversaw the fact that the only ones to blame was the kids who did it. They didn't kill those people because they listened to rock, they killed them because they chose to.

[[LightMare]]

but rock isn't violent at all. not even some crazy death metal is. but lamb of god is sort of violent, with the wall of death and all. the point is, Fall out Boy won't make someone kill someone else.

[SirBaron]

"Anger can guide your hand, but it can't force you to strike. That choice is yours alone."
/Me

[CodyFallsForth]

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but rock isn't violent at all. not even some crazy death metal is. but lamb of god is sort of violent, with the wall of death and all. the point is, Fall out Boy won't make someone kill someone else.


Fallout boy makes me want to kill myself though...

His voice is just so. AHHH! Not good. :/

[TidalSpiral]

I love rock - my favorites are The Hunger, Spineshank, White Zombie, Linkin Park (no jokes assholes :P), Union Underground, and other electronic influenced stuff.

However I do believe it can lead to violence in some individuals. All brains are unique and personal choices / mind set all factor into acts of anger; but there is a clear connection between certain chemical secretions in the body and outside stimuli. For instance classical music really does help MOST human minds engage in school studies or tests. In much the same way rock music tends to increase testosterone and adrenaline reactions in people. No matter whether they find this pleasurable or frightening it could lead to them making violent decisions because of their state of mind.

[Itsmyship]

The thing with Rock is that in every point in history, people associated it with either the angriest sounding or the most sexual form. Like in the late 70's-early 80's, people got upset over Punk music because of some of the stuff they were saying in the songs. Nowadays people who don't know it associate all rock with Death Metal. It doesn't cause violence, as a matter of fact it is a way that people vented anger.

[TidalSpiral]

Very good points, about it's association with sexuality and individuality through time. I agree to an extent, but do believe that for one reason or another it has biological effects. Vibration alone alters behavior in a wide variety of wild life, and some of this association works in humans as well. Add human emotion and the fact that it clearly ties into the process - this makes me certain it can weigh on a person's ability to make rational decisions.

[MANGLER]

I listen to death metal all day, every day. I'm the most sane, intelligent person I know. I wouldn't consider myself aggressive either.

[Lemonparty]

Well you sure won't be like if you were listening to Techno but I doubt it makes you really violent. And I don't think video games make people more violent.. except the extreme cases that are already violent anyway. I love GTA cause well, what's more fun than killing innocent people without any consequence? I know that I can't do that IRL and I would never ever do that either. It sure can make you violent for a minute or two if you are realllly pissed off because you just lost or whatever (happened to me, even did a hole in my wall, oops <.<). But I wouldn't go in the streets with a chainsaw and pull out the hearth of kids with my teeth.

[Wlck742]

It's only the select few people who have mental disorders that do those things, and people just look into their lives a little and even if there's a small sign that they listened to metal, or played video games, or watched a lot of TV, they make those things scapegoats and give everyone that do those things a bad name.

[Fallrider]

Aye, everyone's pointing their finger at games and music these days. I think Marylin Manson made a speech about it awhile back. I'll see if I can find it.

EDIT: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uh0WGhf2s3U The lip-syncing is a bit odd, but the words are the same.

[Lemmy]

Well. If I ever have to beat someone to death with a pipe, I want Megadeth or Motorhead to play at the background.

[Wlck742]

Obviously, but unless you're doing it for a movie, you'll probably just hear sirens.

[JudicatorPrime]

It does if you let it. If you listen to it as something MORE than it is, which is music... then obviously, but I don't really understand why people do that. I mean if it's really that hardcore that you wan't to bash open someones skull, you must realize that the person who MADE the music is nothing like that.

In general though, everything you experience that pertains to violence influences you in some way, even if you don't notice.

[josh]

sometimes but drugs surely makes people violent. actually, videogames, music, movies, TV, etc. can make people violent if not taken care of.

[MarineCorp]

I'm not a person who listens to rock but i think rock does make people more violent and seems that they starting to use drugs but not all of them but some people can be violent as well as games can make people violent example: GTA (which sucks real bad sorry for those who like GTA but it sucks)

[josh]

although it is violent, GTA is alright. you get to know what it feels like to be a gangster, drug runner, killer, etc.

rock music isn't really the genre that makes people violent. it's false emo music that makes people wanna kill themselves.

[Wlck742]

The only reason people think rock or videogames makes people violent is because the crimes caused by them are so rare that the media exaggerate it so much and the public thinks it happens all the time.

[Fenix]

Bad news is good news. You never hear about the people who listen to Arch Enemy or something and don't kill people.
Music is just a form of expression. If someone gets an idea from metal, they're in an easily suggestable state, and music was just the first thing.

PS: I don't like Manson.....

[Warsaw]

Yes, rock music makes mee more violent but bloody video games just make me happy (not violent) :-]

[Hodl pu]

I don't think so... I think it's more about friend influences and psychological thinking. A suicidal kid could listen to music about killing himself and become influenced. However, I could listen to the same song and say "Hey, this has a nice ring to it" and start dancing my ass off. As of friends, one bad kid could listen to a certain type of music and befriend others influencing his new friends to act just as bad and follow the influencer's music taste. If gangsters listened to Cold Play, it wouldn't be any different, it's the fact that they have that music and behavior lodged into their head already.