Protoss Vs Terran so far..

[surr]

What do u think is better so far toss or terran. right now i think i am liking terran because of the viking, cobra, and the new marines sounded like a huge improvement.. the terrans sounds cooler then protoss right now especially since the star relic cannot cloak without moving and the colossus is pretty vunerable and expensive

[Patuljak]

We can't possibly know that yet because we still don't know how exactly will both races work. But as for speculations, I can see very good strategical uses for both of them, although I see more potential in terran.

[Ych9]

I think they are both equally cool. But if I were to choose one, I would prefer the Protoss.
Terrans new style actually isn't really my kind of thing. Alot of the new Terran mechanics focus on defence. I'm not really a defensive kind of guy. Their units also don't seem to have the mobility of the Protoss. I'm more of a build some units, and go harras type of player. Speaking of mobility, Thors seems like its speed is going to be up there with the Reavers in terms of slowness.

As for the Protoss, Warp-ins would lead up to many interesting strategies. Not to mention, I think the Immortals are going to be more useful then expected. From my understanding, Immortals will be very effective against the Siege Tanks, Thors, and the Reaper's bombs. Not to mention, the Immortals have crazy amount of HP.

So yea, although the Terrans have a lot of cool new toys/mechanics, I still prefer the Protoss new toys/mechanics simply because it suits my taste better.

[LJYLJ]

Their units also don't seem to have the mobility of the Protoss.


terran has always been about pushing (making ur defence a very dangerous offence)
but as some1 already said, we just cant know who is the better one atm, it prolly boils down to the one thing, the player behind the keyboard 8)


edit: TvZ is a more head-on approach by the terrans as the zerg should, if possible, not be allowed to evolve to hive level

[Lemmy]

Protoss! They were the less tactical and most simple of the races back in SC1 and a little more complex in BW w the dark archon and the dark temps, but now with the warp mechanics, including blink, they will surely be a lot more fun to play with. Phase prisms are my favourite units. They allow a lot of creative gameplay.

[Itsmyship]

I like them both, but me being a Terran player, I just can't say no to units like Viking and Banshee. That being said, Stalker is still probably my favorite new unit so far and HT seem to still be one of the most annoying things to play against.

Toss is all about the tech tree while Terran are just the pain in the ass of SC....Terran forever!

[PhantomFF]

For raw power I'd have to say that the Protoss still hold the advantage.

Terrans are easily dug in and will have the advantage in base defense but all in all it seems like it'll be balanced.

Everything has a counter as they should...

[SirBaron]

What do u think is better so far toss or terran. right now i think i am liking terran because of the viking, cobra, and the new marines sounded like a huge improvement.. the terrans sounds cooler then protoss right now especially since the star relic cannot cloak without moving and the colossus is pretty vunerable and expensive

Well, if you ask me i'd go for the Zerg, but since that's not even related to the topic...

GOGO THOR (terran)

[SirBaron]

Bah, Dark Swarm 2.0 > Pesky Terran defenses.

[PhantomFF]

That'd be intresting...planet cracker vs dark swarm :P

[SirBaron]

"Executor: Why isn't our Planet Cracker biting on the Zerg, Templar?"
"Templar: Those pesky Dark Swarms are soaking up all the damage!!"
"Executor: A single ability can counter our most powerful weapon? NERF!"

[PhantomFF]

Just as a note. It seems that thus far, blizzard is avoiding alot of the abilities which would induce alot of balance problems into SC2. Things like lockdown and disruption field have been removed to avoid alot of difficulties later on. I have the same hunch about dark swarm.

[SirBaron]

Yeah i suppose. But there's always hope, right? xD

[GuiMontag]

i thought it was those abilities that made starcraft so balanced, even though whole armies can be literally destroyed by 1 unit it ended up working perfectly.

[LJYLJ]

i thought it was those abilities that made starcraft so balanced, even though whole armies can be literally destroyed by 1 unit it ended up working perfectly.


you sir, are correct 8)

its so funny when a Z goes u with 20-30hydras and u **** em up with 1good storm cuz he didnt pay enough attention :)

[capthavic]

As it stands right now I am way more impressed with the terrans. The Protoss had some new stuff but felt like a small upgrade with no big surprises. The terrans however are bringing a ton of new units, abilities, and a **** load of firepower. The thor may not be a super unit but I think it's a lot more intimidating than the mothership.

[ninerman13]

I am torn. In the original Starcraft, I would play games with my race as "random" because I couldn't decide which to pick. So far it is looking like Starcraft 2 will be the same thing. Although admittedly I find the Protoss more aesthetically pleasing.

[PhantomFF]

Thor more impressive then the mothership? eh I have doubts about that...especially since I always favored air to ground

[capthavic]

Yeah the MS is all big and shiney but the Thor is huge lumbering giant of metal and death. And you're not limited to just one like the MS.

[PhantomFF]

But unlike the mothership Thor is more long range artilery then actual superweapon, even with just time bomb I'm pretty sure the mothership could take on 2-3 Thor assuming thor can even attack the air.

[capthavic]

heh heh we can argue this all day long but IMO the Thor much cooler and bad***.

[Ych9]

I think that most people would think that Terrans are cooler as of now because we just recently just learned all their new toys/mechanics. It's still very fresh in our memories. All the Protoss new units/mechanics felt like it's ancient history. That's why most people don't find it as attractive compared to the Terran new units/mechanics.

I remembered back in May when Blizzard just announced the game, that everyone were complaining that the Protoss seems imbalanced, and everyone jumping onto their bandwagon because they seemed soo cool. These kind of stuff will always happen when we learn something new. Once that new feeling dies down, then it is more fair to judge which is better/cooler.

[PhantomFF]

Well, also remember that all the old preferances and biases from SC1 are still around :)

I've always loved the protoss style and I like all the new units overall.

I also love what they've done with terran and all thier new buildings/units look very cool.

I just think little floating cities are cooler than walking ones :D

[Patuljak]

You're right Ych, nice post!

[higha]

Protoss all the way! :)
I have long been a fan of protoss, and I think they are just getting cooler!

[Lemmy]

Protoss are getting what they used not to be -> mobile. mobility used to be a zerg feature, now with warping and blinking protoss are far more flexible than before.

[GuiMontag]

this is probably because blizzard has already changed the mechanics of the zerg, no doubt they will be better at stuff they sucked at before

[surr]

Well the terran is getting the popularity rigth but heres my reason for liking terrans.
1. god damn tempest replace my carrier sorry but battlecruiser owns them all
2. terran must have lockdown and the shield away whatever it will be called
3, vulture sucked.. cobra with attacking while moving will pawn those slow moving units..reavers..dragoons.
4.marines looks better.. they dont fall like lings now
5.battlecruisers new ability to annhilate ground
6. siege tank.. bye bye defense...sniper snipe escapees or small fighters.. thor torn through ur heavy units and soak damage
this is what i feel..personally

[surr]

you sir, are correct 8)

its so funny when a Z goes u with 20-30hydras and u f**k em up with 1good storm cuz he didnt pay enough attention :)
[/quote]

uh who would really put 20-30 hydras together?? pointless suicide.. when facing toss. better divide em in groups

[Lemmy]

surr.. cobras were made to kill zealots, not goon or even less reavers. Just like the vulture was.

[Exvasion]

Well I've always been a big terran fan so I know I will naturally overestimate the power of the protoss, I can't help it. That said, I'm just waiting for the first day the game comes out and seeing a protoss attacking my base with an army made up of nothing but zealots and stalkers. With blink those guys are going to be so freaking annoying, especially when playing a skilled player who will have them in a bunch of spread out groups blinking around all over the place.

[PhantomFF]

I predict that protoss hit and run tactics will be the scource of tons of hair ripping and curse muttering :)

[kehmdaddy]

The Terran have become far more unique a race than they were in SC1. The Protoss have become more mobile, but have basically stuck to what they're good at so far. Nonetheless, I still favor the Protoss. The Protoss have that sweet blue raspberry flavor to them, with their cool glowy, powerful, and intelligent units, while the Terran have that average, but classic cherry taste; everyone likes it, but it's not really anything special, it's just there, although now in Starcraft 2 they've dubbed it: special cherry. The Zerg are sour apple, without a doubt. More primal and savage, more zingy and out there. They're more overpowering; they come at you with a swarm of flavor (lamest pun of all time intended). They've all got different things about them that you've got to love, but it's just whichever one suits you the best. And now I am done with my most random post as of yet on this forum.

[StormCrow]

To me it seems to be quite balanced at the moment. And when it comes to ripping hair, I think for protoss players because there are 5 banshees killing all the probes, and shortly after that:

''Is that mountain row moving?''

Nope...just 5 Thors marching towards my base.

''I need to bring my WARPRAYS...wait...Aren't those 10 vikings attacking them?''

[PhantomFF]

On that point I do hope that phase cannons are still detectors. (Though I haven't seen any reason to think otherwise)

Both seem to have thier annoying side :D, protoss seem to have that ace in the hole dealie...bring in the mothership :D