Strongest Character? Storyline wise not Game [Archive]

mc2

07-27-2007, 11:09 AM

I'd say number 1 strongest character storywise is Kerrigan. Not only is she the Queen b*itch of the universe. Her psionic power is strong enough to mind control Raszagal. She influenced Fenix, Raynor, Mengsk to join her alliance and used them to her advantage. She helped the Protoss retrived the Uraj and Khalis crystals. Her broods escorted the Dark Templars to destroy the 2nd overmind. She took Korhal over for Mengsk, then attacked them so badly. And last, the one single Cerebrate under her control defeated the UED + Protoss + Arcturus. Her psionic abilities are strong enough to sense a "danger" lurking around the corner, which is the Hybrids. So it seems like Kerrigan is the strongest.

Then in no particular order, Zeratul, Raynor, Fenix are all powerful. tweakismyname is right, the overmind is also one of the most powerful characters in the game.

Shadowdragon

07-27-2007, 04:04 PM

Raynor is the most powerful by far. No matter how badly o' how often he gets beaten, he always emerges unscathed. Nobody even bothers to try and kill 'im. Thusly, he is invincible. The same can be said for Zeratul, but he hides in the shadows like the coward he is, ya know? The overmind can sing, so he’s gots the most talent, ya know? Tassy died killing ONE building, so he's the biggest loser of 'em all. Aldaris looks like ah grumpy ol' man, so he can't be to powerful (plus, he kinda got wacked mob-style).
Fenix? As a zealot, he got whacked by one hydralisk, which would have doomed him from the start. But as a dragoon, it took an army to take him down, so he balances out in the middle. Kerrigan is ugly, so she's at the bottom (zerg ain't all pretty). Mengsk is a crazy old coot, so he's second only to Raynor in power.

Exterranminator

07-27-2007, 07:57 PM

tassadar can kill the overmind by sacrificing himself. other heroes can't do this.

Zeratul doesnt have to sacrifice himself :P

JimRaynor45

07-27-2007, 08:59 PM

tassadar and fenix are dead. RIP.
I have to say that Infested Kerrigan is easily the strongest story-wise. She's killed 2 heroes, Fenix and Duke. She has control over the entire zerg swarm. No one else controls that much power. Duran may be powerful, but he's really only a servant. He does say though that Kerrigan is small-minded. so it goes

Infested Kerrigan
Jim Raynor
Zeratul
Artanis
Duran

I didnt put mengsk cuz i dont like him ;)

Shadowdragon

07-27-2007, 09:15 PM

Was Kerrigan present when they died? I can't remember. I mean, on the battlefield...

Itsmyship

07-27-2007, 09:19 PM

My list goes Tassadar, Kerrigan, Zeratul, Duran, Jimmy, Artanis

Oh and for shadow's question, I believe she was or who else would Fenix be talking to?

Shadowdragon

07-27-2007, 09:26 PM

I know she talked to him, but was she on the battlefield herself? Like, attacking with her claws or foot or whatever?

Itsmyship

07-27-2007, 09:33 PM

Y'know I'm not sure. I thought it was something that she was chillin in the hive, then when the time came, she popped out and talked to Fenix, then killed him.

Fenix

07-27-2007, 10:08 PM

Her psionic power is strong enough to mind control Raszagal.

NITPICKING!! Rasz was infested....Not mind controlled....Kerrigan doesn't have the fine-tuned touch it takes to do that psionically.

My Top Five
Tassadar
Overmind
Daggoth
Zeratul
Kerrigan.

But in terms of sheer strength...
Tassadar
Zeratul
Kerrigan
Fenix
Mengsk.

Yeah.

Dxun

07-27-2007, 10:17 PM

Kerrigan would have to be the Darth vader of SC...

But Duran is the Emperor Palpatine AKA the puppet master!

Duran is weaker physically than most of the Heros listed but HE uses them for his (masters) own ends.

EDIT: My 100th post ;)

zeratul11

07-28-2007, 12:05 AM

tassadar sacrificing himself is the most powerful act ever. tassadar is the pinnacle of all high templars.

by the way.. heres mine

tassadar
overmind
kerrigan
zeratul
raznagal
mengsk
raynor
fenix
aldaris
duran

im a roc

07-29-2007, 06:12 PM

Generaly these ar all of the heros: (stolen from zeratul)

tassadar
overmind
kerrigan
zeratul
raznagal
mengsk
raynor
fenix
aldaris
duran

The ones crossed out are dead... That leaves us with:

kerrigan
zeratul
mengsk
raynor
duran

In order, I would put them

duran
kerrigan
zeratul/raynor (even)
mengsk

duran first cause I think he's Xel'naga, (see http://www.starcraft2forum.org/forums/index.php?topic=1094.0 one of many supporting threads.)
Then kerrigan because she rules the universe.
The zeratul/raynor cause there awsome.
Then mengsk because he has absouply nothing and he's stranded in the middle of a deserted and decimated world.

JudicatorPrime

07-29-2007, 09:53 PM

Kerrigan probably, Tassadar would've been my first pick but he want all kamikaze.

Zeratul is my favorite though, then Raynor.

SirBaron

07-29-2007, 11:03 PM

And last, the one single Cerebrate under her control defeated the UED + Protoss + Arcturus.
Well, that was all the Cerebrates effort, really. (our mine/yours/ours, depending on the viewpoint)
Then in no particular order, Zeratul, Raynor, Fenix are all powerful. tweakismyname is right, the overmind is also one of the most powerful characters in the game.
True, and technically Kerrigan is an Overmind due to her status as sole ruler of the Swarm, so much of her power could originate from that. Though if the real Overmind was alive, she'd probably not even come close, considering the age of Overmind nr1, and considering the fact that the Overminds hold over the Cerebrates was undeniable (not to mention his hold over Kerrigan) while Kerrigan relies on intimidation to keep "her" Cerebrates under control.

Personally, since both Tassadar and the Overmind has kicked the bucket, in regards of personal power, i vote for Tychus/Zerry/Raynor in first place then Kerrigan, then Duran, Gaskovil, that unnamed Protoss commander in the gameplay trailer, then the Warp Ray, Phoenix, Siege Tank, Immortal, Zealot, Marine, SCV, Probe and lastly, Mengsk. (okay, not the units, i just wanted to show exactly how much i despise Mengsk...)

Drafter

08-03-2007, 11:52 AM

Zomg , wheres Raynor ? You will be shocked when Duran turns out to be the bigger timer in Starcraft2 and how does he even control those zerglings anyway

I vote Raynor to be in the top 5 list

Sagathox

08-05-2007, 10:23 PM

Raynor?????????????????? no way! he cant be more powerfull than the everage zealot, or do u think he could beat one in a duel? of course if you give him the battlecruiser of course he will win, but then it wouldn´t be raynor´s strength.

My list is

Tassadar
Zeratul/Kerrigan (in this game we surely will see a battle between these two, i hope its an even one, so no excuses are allowed after)
Fenix
And duran as im convinced he is not human, nor protoss or zerg, so id like to see why he was choosen to play such a risky role.

PhantomFF

08-06-2007, 03:46 AM

Take away the zealots shield/armor. Take away reiners powersuit.

Methinks you'd find that Raynor's gun would hit the mark first. Battle instinct and exp > random zealot 247b.

ShoGun

08-06-2007, 08:28 AM

Story wise

1.) Overmind
2.) Kerrigan (infested)
3.) Tassadar
4.) Zeratul
5.) Daggoth
6.) Raznagal
7.) Zasz (or any other Cerebrate)
8.) Artanis
9.) Aldaris
10.) And any terran hero in whatever order (as humans, they do not possess that great of a power compared to protoss and zergs, the most powerful terrans are ghosts who possess extraordinary mental and physical powers on a human scale. Story wise, any ghost is more powerful then James Raynor).

Also, I haven’t listed Duran, because nobody knows what he may be truly capable of . . . for all we know, he could be energy that has possessed a terran body, and the being of energy itself is what prevents Kerrigan from warping control. So he may not be powerful enough in a sense to compete in combat much.

Drafter

08-06-2007, 09:05 AM

I though the topic was about how much army fire power a character has or something like that,never thought that its about a 1v1... :( and i not being sarcastic

ArchLimit

08-06-2007, 09:40 AM

Drafter

08-06-2007, 12:55 PM

His basically made a bad list :) but I guess its okay =X

Sagathox

08-06-2007, 07:41 PM

Take away the zealots shield/armor. Take away reiners powersuit.

Methinks you'd find that Raynor's gun would hit the mark first. Battle instinct and exp > random zealot 247b.

Yeahh that would be fair... yeah right, protoss are 3 meter tall, and in the story it´s said that they have unmatched speed and strenght, the shield i think its a way of channeling their psionic powers, and no, if he raynor still has his gun, the zealot has his shield and psi blades, as they are made by his body with help of his gear i think, in any way you look at this 1 on 1 raynor always loses against a zealot, not to say tassadar with a psionic storm, or zeratul´s blade. lets face it terrans are weak in melee

SirBaron

08-06-2007, 07:44 PM

@Sagathox: In fact, you are quite right. Terrans ARE weak in melee, that's their weakness. They have superior firepower to the other two races, but are screwed once melee enters the fray. In fact, i would say their motto is "Death from Afar."

@ArchLimit: Well, if considering power prior to the OM's death, then the OM clearly beats Tassadar, no matter whether in walking form or ship form. Also, Tassadar died in the effort of killing the OM, which gives him some minus score on the power front. Kamikaze = less power than non-kamikaze.

Ghost

08-06-2007, 07:50 PM

Here is my list:

1. Zeratul
2. Fenix (I mean he's died, TWICE, who can do that?)
3. Jim (He's a human and he's managed to survive all that sh1t thats been going on)
4. Tassadar (he has balls of steel)
5. Kerrigan (Might be strong but it takes more than infested stilletos to scare me)

SirBaron

08-06-2007, 08:03 PM

@Ghost: Gonna comment a bit on your list.

1: Zeratul - Invisible, deals more damage than a siege tank? Ofc he's number 1.
2: Fenix - TBH i think he is virtually unkillable, in truth. I bet he will be back in some cheesy way in SC2 (Fenix: Behold, brethren, for i have returned once again! Kerrigan: *slices him up real bad* stay dead. Fenix: *5 seconds later* ... Behold, brethren, for i have returned YET again! Kerrigan: *slices him up into small bits*. Fenix: *10 seconds later* Behold, breth... *gets sliced up*... Behold... *gets repeatedly sliced up*... Beh... *slice* Behold, br *slice*... behold... *slice*, and you can imagine the rest)
3: Jim - Human? Naaaah. I bet his mom was abducted by aliens, why else would he hang out with Zerry all the time? Btw, if Tassadar has balls of steel, Jim has balls of hardened Titanium-Adamantium-Cantbeatthis****utanium alloy.
4: Tassadar - Tassadar doesn't have balls of steel, he has balls of Dark/High templar energies.
5: Kerrigan - She have claws. Nuff said.

Ghost

08-06-2007, 08:25 PM

Lol! Yea, fenix will come back as an Immortal xD

And yes, she also has claws (Kerr).

Indigent

08-06-2007, 08:32 PM

First off that was funny. Behold lol. Comes back as an imortal and puts remains of imortal into a stalker when he is dead. Then into a warp ray when he dies again. Then into a Colosus. THEN into a probe.
We aren't taking anymore chances.
*Gets base raided and Fenix zaps all the marines down with his tiny lazer*

My top 5 list
--------------------------------------------------
1. Raynor/ Zeratual (Because they are one..)
2. Kerigan
3. Tassadar
4. Fenix
5. Duran
6- ???
Last. Mengsk

thrif

08-06-2007, 08:49 PM

Oh come on, guys.

Kerrigan took control over a whole goddamn alien race. How can anyone match THAT?

Indigent

08-06-2007, 09:12 PM

I said MY top 5 not power wise. If it were the order would put Kerigan on top. Duh lol.

ShoGun

08-06-2007, 09:17 PM

ShoGun, wouldn't Tassadar be above the Overmind since Tassadar killed the overmind? I mean yea sure he needed a teensy bit of help from a gargantuan ship... but y'know, he still basically pwned a mountanous piece of pulsating flesh with his psionic energy.

That's...that's pretty pimp...

The overmind had been weakened by the combined efforts of the protoss and terran forces, Tassadar just laid the final blow before the overmind could escape (not to mention at the cost of his own life); that doesn't make him more powerful then the overmind ArchLimit.

AnArchY

08-07-2007, 06:48 AM

I think Duran is just like on another level of pwnage but just doesn't show it yet, he has the balls to call zeratul a 'young prodigial'

Personally I think he'll slowly start taking over the role as main villan, unless he goes and just kills kerrigan in SCII, which I could sort of see happening.

Indigent

08-07-2007, 06:56 AM

First off, welcome to the forum. I can see that too, only except I think Raynor has that duty of killing her. If I'm wrong then yes, it will definatly be Duran. Raynor deserves it way more lol. I like Kerigan, but I liked Fenix too, but he is dead.

Tibalt[terranz]989

08-07-2007, 10:29 PM

Well at the moment Kerrigan is probably the strongest single entity in the SC universe now that the Overmind is dead. However Raynor has that human ego and cunning that will see him through any challenge. I would be very surprised if they ever killed him off. Hes like the SC signature character.

Nuclear Launch

08-07-2007, 11:06 PM

Oh come on, guys.

Kerrigan took control over a whole goddamn alien race. How can anyone match THAT?

She actually was lost to the zerg, infested and controlled by an alien race, so it´s hard to say who controls who.

Back to the topic;

Tassadar: strong and honorable but dead

Samir Duran: just a peon, and "too much trickery" = "wimp"

Zeratul: was made a fool by the zerg who took control of Razsagal (can´t spell that) and he only found out when it was too late

Kerrigan: is she was hot Arcturus wouldn´t have left her to be infested

Infested Kerrigan: *****

Jim N. Raynor: is truly the most formidable hero in SC, he´s probably the greatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreat greatgreatgreatgreatgreatgrandson of Chuck Norris

Indigent

08-08-2007, 12:01 AM

Who do you think his mom was? I mean great great great great great great great grandma.

GrahamTastic

08-08-2007, 12:27 AM

I seriously think that Raynor and Karrigan are the best. The voice actors for both of them were simply brilliant. Zeratul and Tassadar follow closely behind them though. They were also very good.

Indigent

08-08-2007, 12:31 AM

Imagine if they got married... Imagine the kids... O-o

Drafter

08-08-2007, 07:20 AM

I can't belief u asked us to imagine that , I mean if that DO happens then there house would be full of baby size bug flying and sticking on the celling.

Shadowdragon

08-08-2007, 03:18 PM

Imagine if they got married... Imagine the kids... O-o

Wait, if Tassy and Zeratul got married, or if Raynor and Kerrigan got married?
I'll split the diffrence on this one
If Raynor and Zeratul got married, I don't know how they would have kids. They would probably opt for adoption. Maybe a zergling or something. All I know is that would be one hell of an messed up family.

If the COULD have a baby, it would look like this:
http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=looseartistreditionofbahl8.jpg

Ghost

08-08-2007, 04:07 PM

That last post was just waaaay to twisted, I had to go purge myself in a boiling hot pool of lava.

Anyway, I dont see why people (not nessesarily in the forums, its just that my friend walked up to me to ask me about the zerg "heroes") say that Duran/Kerrigan is a hero, I mean a hero is someone who does richous acts and belives in fighting for the good and innocent and in self sacrifice... Did Duran/Kerrigan do or believe in any of that? The TRUE hero is Tassadar, who sacrificed himself to buy his entire race more time to seek salvation.

I mean, even to their own race, they use them as slaves and thoughtlessly send them into battle just to get slaughtered.

Indigent

08-08-2007, 06:19 PM

*Salutes*
En tuaro Tassadar!

LordKerwyn

08-08-2007, 07:10 PM

The are to different kinds of heros the good kind and the powerful kind. In my opinion the strongest characters storyline wise would be: (Liviving or Dead)
1. Tassadar, because he outsmarted Kerrigan more than once and he made kerrigan as powerful as she is when he struck down the Overmind.
2. Kerrigan, because.... well you know why.....
3. Zeratul, He is eccecftively the new commander of the Protoss ans he is really power 1v1 he is probally as strong as Kerrigan.
4. Jim Raynor, Because of his leadership skills and tactical ability, 1v1 he really is no match for a powerful zerg/protoss.
?. Duran, Im not sure where he should be placed because we know very little about him but he does seem to know a ton of information and knowledge is power......

Indigent

08-08-2007, 07:21 PM

If Arcturas's mom had not gotten his dads semen mixed with her eggs then a whole bunch of people would not have died.

R.I.P.
----------------------
Tassadar
(Non infested) Kerrigan
Duke
Razsugal? The Matriach
Fenix
The Overmind
----------------------
In memory we will never forget.

Nikzad

08-08-2007, 08:28 PM

The overmind had been weakened by the combined efforts of the protoss and terran forces, Tassadar just laid the final blow before the overmind could escape (not to mention at the cost of his own life); that doesn't make him more powerful then the overmind ArchLimit.

Yeah well the Overmind had thousands of Zerg soldiers to protect it now, didn't it? The fact still remains that Tassadar killed A F***ING BUILDING-SIZED ORGANISM WITH HIS MIND

My List is:
Tassadar
Kerrigan
Zeratul
Fenix

ps -
(Fenix: Behold, brethren, for i have returned once again! Kerrigan: *slices him up real bad* stay dead. Fenix: *5 seconds later* ... Behold, brethren, for i have returned YET again! Kerrigan: *slices him up into small bits*. Fenix: *10 seconds later* Behold, breth... *gets sliced up*... Behold... *gets repeatedly sliced up*... Beh... *slice* Behold, br *slice*... behold... *slice*, and you can imagine the rest)
nice job I LoLed on that one - but be honest...did you get any of that at all from the scene in the hallway of the pub from Snatch with Bullet-Tooth Tony? (not accusing you, I'm just wondering because it is very similar)

Ghost

08-08-2007, 08:30 PM

Dude why in Warcraft 3 the undead has hereos and such. In my opinion I think a hero does more than the average person it goes above the call of duty even zerg can do that.

That would really be a Champion or an Elite unit, not a hero.

Nikzad

08-08-2007, 08:55 PM

One race's hero is another race's freedom nemesis

Nuclear Launch

08-09-2007, 09:03 PM

4. Jim Raynor, Because of his leadership skills and tactical ability, 1v1 he really is no match for a powerful zerg/protoss.

Raynor IS more than a match if he´s on the Hyperion, and even piloting the vulture, with good micro. Just let a korean micro Raynor´s vulture and see what´s left of Kerrigan or Zeratul.

LordKerwyn

08-09-2007, 09:08 PM

thrif

08-09-2007, 09:11 PM

Oh come on, guys.

Kerrigan took control over a whole goddamn alien race. How can anyone match THAT?

She actually was lost to the zerg, infested and controlled by an alien race, so it´s hard to say who controls who.

Yeah well, maybe it wasn't exactly what she had planned to do, but still. Infested Kerrigan then, not Kerrigan. :)

Nuclear Launch

08-09-2007, 09:26 PM

I was talking in the story context not in game. In game stats change everything but when your talking about things from a story tellers point of view humans just arnt as strong man to man as the zerg/protoss.

Well, the Protoss are seen as very wise and respected, but also proved to be naive, prejudgmental and overconfident.
The ferocity of the zerg is much feared, but a small gadjet like a psi emmiter/disrupter can get them into serious trouble.
Humans follow the same path: there are the greedy selfish ones and there are the noble, strong willing ones like Raynor.

Therefore, I don´t see why aliens are stronger. They are, at most, just as powerful storywise speaking.

LordKerwyn

08-09-2007, 10:31 PM

Im was talking about physical power not leadrship if you noticed i said raynor had great leadership skills.

I was talking in the story context not in game. In game stats change everything but when your talking about things from a story tellers point of view humans just arnt as strong man to man as the zerg/protoss.

Well, the Protoss are seen as very wise and respected, but also proved to be naive, prejudgmental and overconfident.
The ferocity of the zerg is much feared, but a small gadjet like a psi emmiter/disrupter can get them into serious trouble.
Humans follow the same path: there are the greedy selfish ones and there are the noble, strong willing ones like Raynor.

Therefore, I don´t see why aliens are stronger. They are, at most, just as powerful storywise speaking.

Your talking more about strength of character which your right Raynor has alot of been when it comes down to it he isnt going to go toe to toe with a zerg/protoss in a physical battle and unless he is in the marine battler armor. Even still as might as armor and a rail gun are it isnt going to beat shields and psi blades or a swarm of zerglings. When you start bringing veichles into this you can really compare 1 man veichles because otherwise its back to cammanding people and armies instead of just a 1v1 fight. Also 1 man veichles show you the stregnth of the veichle as much as the stregth of the pilot. ex a siege isnt going to shoots its shells farther because of a pilot even though they may be more accurate because of him.

Either back to my original point a human, raynor or otherwise without the veichles really stand no chance against a protoss or zerg unless they have help.

Nuclear Launch

08-10-2007, 02:50 AM

LordKerwyn, I guess I understand your point of view. In fact, the only good toe to toe terran unit is the firebat, and he doesn´t excell at 1x1 matches (obviously because of the AOE damage).
Just remember that if you consider an unequipped battle, zerg would win because protoss need crystals and armor to fight. Then only archons could stand a chance.

That makes me wonder who would win a fight: an Archon or an Ultralisk?

Shadowdragon

08-10-2007, 07:40 PM

I'm going to bet an Ultralisk. I would be very surprised if it didn't win.

Indigent

08-10-2007, 07:48 PM

I bet that with right micro someone could do it. Archons have 1 range while ultralisks are pure melee. I saw a probe kick an SCVs but with micro lol. I was like omg. It didn't even lose it's shield.

Nikzad

08-10-2007, 07:52 PM

well an archon has 10 more damage (30, splash), a little bit of range (I'd guess they can get 1 or 2 extra hits in before the ultralisk is able to attack), and 10 hp more (350 shields + 10 hp) but 0 default armor to the ultra's 1

I'm not an expert at this stuff, but I'd guess the Archon, and I'd hope so too...g0 Pr0t0ss

SirBaron

08-10-2007, 08:12 PM

ps -
(Fenix: Behold, brethren, for i have returned once again! Kerrigan: *slices him up real bad* stay dead. Fenix: *5 seconds later* ... Behold, brethren, for i have returned YET again! Kerrigan: *slices him up into small bits*. Fenix: *10 seconds later* Behold, breth... *gets sliced up*... Behold... *gets repeatedly sliced up*... Beh... *slice* Behold, br *slice*... behold... *slice*, and you can imagine the rest)
nice job I LoLed on that one - but be honest...did you get any of that at all from the scene in the hallway of the pub from Snatch with Bullet-Tooth Tony? (not accusing you, I'm just wondering because it is very similar)

No, actually not, haven't even heard of that one. Gotta check up on it and see it for myself.

ShoGun

08-10-2007, 08:14 PM

Yeah well the Overmind had thousands of Zerg soldiers to protect it now, didn't it? The fact still remains that Tassadar killed A F***ING BUILDING-SIZED ORGANISM WITH HIS MIND

The overmind isn't just a building-sized organism it’s the zerg swarm itself. If the overmind is the brain, the swarm is definitely its body. As for the cerebrates, they are like the nervous system that directs the overmind's will to the Zerg Swarm; like a person wanting to move it's arm, whatever he wants, the cerebrates make their brood do.

I don't know if you know, but at the start, the overmind didn't have a body, it was just energy that existed in the consciousness of all zerg underlings, and made them perform as a single unit. It even said for his biography in the manual, "bodiless entity". The "building" is just a large collection of zerg underlings merged together. So if anyone killed its manifested body, it could just gather more zergs and make another. The dark templars attacks however, would rupture not only its physical form, but also the energy itself.

But in conclusion the protoss and terran weren’t just fighting the overmind's guards, but the overmind itself. Tassadar just laid the final blow to the brain, and severed it from the body, but wasn't strong enough to fight the body itself. So in terms of true power, the overmind is the undisputed champion.

Nikzad

08-10-2007, 08:42 PM

oh jeez dude come on...the fact that I think that Tassadar is stronger alone proves that the Overmind is not the "undisputed champion"

I'm not going to continue because you are an obvious zergophile, so let's just agree to disagree

I personally think that Tassadar is stronger, but you think the Overmind is stronger

cool?

ShoGun

08-10-2007, 09:01 PM

Well, I don't idolize zerg for their story elements, I just like to play them in starcraft, and they are my main race. But my claims aren't one sided, I just think its true that the overmind is the most powerful character presented in the StarCraft universe even when you look at it from a neutral observer's perspective.

Shadowdragon

08-10-2007, 11:33 PM

Archon wins if both are not upgraded. If both are, the Ultra wins…sort of (aprox seven health).

zeratul11

08-10-2007, 11:49 PM

no, i think archon still wins. iv'e tried it before only the bc plus yamato can beat the archon 1 on 1.

DontHate

08-10-2007, 11:53 PM

also, the archon has splash so it's basicly yea, pretty damn good.

Isidoros

08-11-2007, 01:08 AM

I am not Kerrigan's fan but I think she is far more powerfull than Raynor, Zeratul and even more powerfull than Tassadar.
Why? Because of her control over the Swarm. But not only.

Shadowdragon

08-11-2007, 01:29 AM

Indigent

08-11-2007, 01:43 AM

Okay enough of the archons and ultralisks we should just get back on topic of which hero is stronger/ strongest what ever...

Shadowdragon

08-11-2007, 02:45 AM

Raynor, I'm telling ya, you can't kill him. He would survive if the universe imploded on itself. Kerrigan can try, the protoss can try, but they will fail. Don't believe me?
Exhibit A: http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=raynor1ma2.jpg

Indigent

08-11-2007, 02:52 AM

That picture was funny I like Raynor too, my favorite character next is Zeratual. Then Fenix.

DontHate

08-11-2007, 04:22 AM

i'm pretty sure if tassadar didn't kill himself he would be the strongest. now it's kerrigan. Raynor is just a foolish terran that can be ripped to shreds, zeratul looks like a tough bloke but i can see him die, and well tassadar... i dont see him dieing... but kerrigan so far is the toughest.

Nuclear Launch

08-13-2007, 02:34 AM

Raynor is just a foolish terran that can be ripped to shreds... but kerrigan so far is the toughest.

Yeah right. I guess now you are going to say that Chuck Norris is also a foolish human who can be ripped to shreds as well... C´mon dude, open your eyes.

ShdwyTemplar

08-13-2007, 08:06 AM

Gotta be Duran. I'm afraid. Kerrigan is a naive matriarch who is narrow minded. Duran is the man to beat for guy with most power. So sad. :( Duran, Evil Overlord. >:D

SirBaron

08-13-2007, 09:02 AM

Duran is undoubtly the most powerful. I mean, he serves the Scrin and will aid them by capturing the Artifacts - which in truth are dimensional rift portals - which will call the Scrin to the sector and force them to create huge alien towers across the planets in the Korprulu Sector, which will act as portals for their Motherships, which are going to raid the crap out of everything that moves with powerful, Independent Day-esque Catalyst cannons that do 9999 damage to everything, exactly like an Ion Cannon Uplink, kind of.

Uh... what do you mean "wrong game"?

Wlck742

08-13-2007, 09:23 AM

Duran's not the most powerful at all. He could be just some pothead that's too high to know the difference from left and right.

No. The most powerful character is... the Executor/Cerebrate/Magistrate/Commander ie the PLAYER! It's been what, around 60 battles and not a single loss. Kinda fishy, no? He must be a person from another world sitting in front of a computer with a mouse and keyboard.

slugonice

08-13-2007, 12:12 PM

ZERATUl...

he's gonna do a 300 style killin spree in the DEFENSE of his PROTOSS brethren

ShoGun

08-14-2007, 06:30 PM

Darkmer

08-15-2007, 12:46 AM

StarCraft144000

08-15-2007, 02:07 AM

Raynor on his Battlecruiser. ;D

LordofAngels

08-15-2007, 03:53 AM

I really like Tassadar the best, halfly because I love the fact that he is the first templar that I saw with attack other than magic, and the fact that he saved Protoss from their doom. Also I like the fact that he connected Dark Templar and HIgh templar together.

But when it comes to strongest, I have to say Duran. I'm saying this in story wise. He does say in the bonus round of Zerg campain that he is decendent of Xel'Naga, and I have a hunch that he is keeping many powers for himself, to reveal it later. I'm certain that we'll be seeing Duran again in action when Xel'Naga comes into the storyline. He isn't my favorite because he betrays many people in the story..... I'm sure he will betray Kerrigan when the time comes.

And for second Strongest, I have to say Rayner[I hope I spelled it right] Rayner has one element that no one else in SC seems to have: Luck. He is luckiest of all the characters so far introduced and even though he is a human, he gets out of trouble so many times. The fact that he also has many allies in his side is also his advantage, and the fact that he strives to his goal no matter what is another. The word "Strong" does not always mean "Brawn", you know. I'm looking forward to how he will manage his crews and fight Xel'Naga as well as Kerrigan's broods.

The other strongest hero in order is as follows [after Duran and Rayner in order of Strongest]

3. Tassadar
4. Zeratul/Kerrigan
5. Felix [zelot]
6. Mangsk [before he became an idiot]
7. Overmind

...... and so on

I really think that Tassadar is stronger than Zeratul only because he can use both powers of Dark Templar and High Templar, plus he was able to use it combined, without becoming an arcon [I'm guessing Twilight Arcon has more stablized ability of Tassadar, to roughly put it] Felix, I think is strong mostly because he was able to survive the onslaught of zerg, even though he was injurded heavly in process. Mangsk, when he was running Sons of Coral was strong because of his flawless leadership during that time. As for Overmind..... well, I think he does have some strategy in his mind when running the broods, so he does have some power, I believe.

LordofAngels

08-15-2007, 03:57 AM

The Scrin are an alien race in Command and Conquer Tiberium Wars. They infect planets with Tiberium (A crystal that turns matter in more Tiberium) and come when the planets are covered in it to harvest the tiberium which they use to power themselves.

I think Kerigan is the most powerful character in the story line! She WTHBBQPWNED the UED, Protoss, and more in the final battle of Brood War, making her the sole queen of the Zerg and the ruling force of the sector.

You are talking about the game........
But I think Kerrigan was just plain lucky at that time. I mean, even Overmind can get out of that situation...... Kerrigan was able to get through because UED, Raynor, and Protoss because they were not allied and did not trust one another nor help one another. If they made allience and trusted one another and planned the tactical plan, Kerrigan wouldn't have stood a chance. Plus, it was a zerg campain, which states that Zerg [Only zerg force was Kerri's force] had to win.....

GrahamTastic

08-15-2007, 07:58 PM

HEY HEY PEOPLE!! We are saying who is the strongest character story-line wise. This is not supposed to be a debate over who is the toughest. We are saying who has the most character development. Who seems like a real person? Who is written the best in the game?

SirBaron

08-16-2007, 06:08 PM

*pulls joke about Kerrigan slicing Fenix to bits, after which he arises again, alive - several times over*
nice job I LoLed on that one - but be honest...did you get any of that at all from the scene in the hallway of the pub from Snatch with Bullet-Tooth Tony? (not accusing you, I'm just wondering because it is very similar)

Well, i rented Snatch the other day and saw, that yeah, my "joke" and the scene where Tony shoots Boris the Blade like 7-8 times with the D-Eagle are pretty similiar.

Nikzad

08-16-2007, 06:22 PM

hahahahaha I LOVE THAT SCENE

boris is moaning - *BOOM*
"I'll show you!" - *BOOM*
"**** you!!" - *BOOM BOOM*

that and the chinese guy in the strip bar when they tell the story of Tony:
"I SHOOT YOU!!! YOU GO DOWN!!!"

Blackskies

08-16-2007, 08:24 PM

Personally. I think zeratul is strongest character wise. I mean he fought for auir after being bannished forgave adaris after all the crap he did. Gave the remaining khala survivors the location of shakuras. He lost the matriach who he obviously felt seriously connected too. He was the one who discovered Durans plan. I mean the only other person in starcraft that really compares to this is raynor. But thats only because of what happend to kerrigan and the fact that he sided with an alien race. But zeratul is strongest story wise hands down. Heres my list.

1: Zeratule
2. Raynor
3. Mengsk.
4. Kerrigan.
5. Stuckov.

Hodl pu

08-20-2007, 06:59 PM

Tassadar/Zeratul Archon
Alan Schezar
Gui Montag
Tom Kazansky
Yggdrasill

oh yes

Protosscommander

08-20-2007, 07:06 PM

Strongest Character for me are

Tassadar
Praetor Fenix
Praetor Artanis
Aldaris
Zeratul

there they are.

Duke Nukem

08-23-2007, 03:32 AM

1. Duke - held off the entire zerg swarm with 6 marines and some SCV's. Plus his names duke and he sounds badass.

2. Raynor - Right now he's technically a space pirate. The fact alone that he's a pirate is enough to make him tougher than everyone else. The only reason Duke is higher is because his name is Duke.

3. Mengsk - He has the ultimate strength: will. He is able to sacrifice anything and anyone to achieve victory. He understands that some of his own soldiers will die, and he is able to kill off an entire world to win. He sees clearly what must be done, and does it, directly. When others sit around thinking, planning, he acts, and acts like a soldier. Reminds me of the mentality of Col. Kurtz, if anyone has seen that great movie. If it weren't for technicalities (someone being a pirate, and someone being named Duke) he would be Number One.

4. Zeratul - He's always invisible. And he has a warp blade. Plus he also has the will of a champion in that he's able to kill his own matriarch. Takes a lot of character...

5. I lost interest at this point... sorry.

ijffdrie

08-23-2007, 05:58 PM

tassadar:this guy handled a giant brain, and learned how to use both high and dark templar powers, something i haven't seen anybody else do yet
overmind: this guy lay waste to half the kopruku sector, so i guess he must be strong or the rest of the guys just really suck, so either way he's number two
kerrigan: she controls the entire swarm with her mind and rules over the koprulu sector+she killed aldaris and was able to kill zeratul if she wanted too
zeratul: he's one of the mightiest dark templar, and he's very difficult to hunt down, so i guess if everybody is trying to kill everybody he'll be one of the last 4 to stand
duran: this guy might be 4 places higher, i don't really know him, but im sure he's in the top 5, so here he is
aldaris: he got killed by kerrigan and pawned by zeratul so he's weaker than those two, but he was strong so hell get place 6
fenix: fenix just was the ultimate protoss warrior, no kiddin', he could lay waste to an entire brood if he wanted too
taldarin: this guy lived for 3000 years, so i guess he must be pretty strong
rainor: he's a very potent warrior, but certanly not as strong, personally, as the people i posted above
mengsk: screw mengsk, he wasn't even a warrior
dugalle: he wasn't a great warrior but he was a potent leader
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soldier: a few die every battle
reaper: never lived longer than 6 months
cannonfodder: the kind you put in the front line
schezar: got pawned the first time he was seen in combat, so hes very very low

Drafter

08-24-2007, 02:55 PM

Lol,Duke Nukem I can guess why you like the word duke and why you put Duke as 1st....haha
Mengsk isn't really a good guy but he is still able to rebuild/reorganize an army

string_me_along

08-24-2007, 03:55 PM

Tassadar was always one step ahead of kerrigan, tricking her on char and what not. He probably could have taken her down. But she had the chance to kill everyone else and is toying with them. She probably should have killed them because I'm sure one of them will bring her comeuppance.

But still Tassadar > Kerrigan > everyone else

venado

08-24-2007, 04:41 PM

I say:
Tassadar (protoss say hi with his name now.. en Taro Tassadar!)
Zeratul / Kerrigan
Fenix
Raynor

-LT-

08-24-2007, 05:00 PM

Zeratul and Kerrigan.

Blackskies

08-25-2007, 06:27 AM

I don't see how any of these characters are better story wise. I mean zeratul has been in the center of all most everything and hes the one who discovered durans little secret plan.

kenshin72

08-25-2007, 08:30 AM

I got a feeling that this Taldarin will play a big role later on in sc2

Hadean

08-26-2007, 12:38 AM

Duran. I mean, the guy is clearly of a higher power, and anyone who has the balls to call Zeratul "young prodigal" is definitely nails.

freedom23

08-30-2007, 03:24 AM

1. Player (executor, overmind, commander)
2. Tarrasque (immortal specie)
3. Queen of Blades (all of the 3 races strengts are in her)
4. Zeratul + Tassadar (1st twighlight archon,, in a custom game)
5. Raynor (never underestimate the power of hairgrower!! ^_^)

SOGEKING

09-10-2007, 11:45 PM

1. Duran (he hides well his game, and was able to worry Zeratul)
2. Zeratul (he does not fear Kerrigan)
3. Kerrigan
4. Artanis
5. Raynor
6. Mengsk

PS : Zeratul feared the Xel'Naga. I believe i had to place the Xel'Naga at the first place, but as there is no Xel'Naga hero I can't place this race. Maybe Duran is a Xel'Naga servant.

DontHate

09-10-2007, 11:49 PM

i'ts funny. duran is accually i think the weakest hero. he died so many times it was annoying. artanis comes in a second for weakest as well. in the not game world, i think it goes.

duran
kerrigan
zeratul
artanis
raynor
mengsk

duran is probably pretty strong, kerrigan is the ruler of the zerg, zeratul's pretty badass and he's old too, which makes him wise, artanis is foolish becuase he's unexpirienced. he's also pretty young. the terrans are in last becuase they arn't that strong and they're foolish.

RCClock

09-30-2007, 02:52 AM

no, i think archon still wins. iv'e tried it before only the bc plus yamato can beat the archon 1 on 1.

I did the match up on brood war, one with full upgrade, one with none.
The result was as I said.

No micro, just two units going at it.

My Test, both fully upgraded, including ultra special upgrades, my archon against a computer-controlled ultra, archon won both times I tested, but very close. If you were controlling both archon and ultra against each other then I blame the noble character of the archon for your different result: The Archon was reluctant to attack a friendly unit while the ultra was not. ;D

To the topic, it can still be interpreted different ways, I interprete it: "most powerful 1v1, alone and judging from the story"
So: Tassadar
He destroyed the Overmind pretty much by himself through the use of his psionic powers. No other Hero could have survived that ball of energy Tassadar became, had it been targeted at him/her, not even Duran. Some minus on his power because of sacrificing himself for it, but still the most powerful Hero there was in SC/BW.