Mothership versus Zerg is a no no

[Lombar]

Mothership could be Toss worst nightmare if they decide to send em versus a Zerg opponent.

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Succubus

I dont know if all of you guys knew of the existance of that unit allready, but if what wikia says it's true, Mothership could destroy a toss fleet with it's explosion (same as Thor for terrans) and if the Succubus attacked and found a mothership in a toss base.. that will be ugly :O

What do you think?.. ;D

EDIT: Im not sure tho if the mothership just dies or acts like a baneling, damaging everything that's around it. Damage in this case would be more if the unit's bigger, that's why of my reasoning.

If that's NOT the case, the succubus's still a great counteroffence for the big units.

[Star-Crap]

i dont think its a real unit. I hear a lot about it but were havent gotten an official nod from blizz that it is a real unit. If it is though its gonna pwn some major thor ass.

[Lombar]

While little has been announced about changes to the Zerg and Terran forces, Blizzard has dished on a couple of changes. Two new Zerg units are the Nydus Worm, an underground transport system, and Succubus, which can "Infect" other organic beings before exploding them.


This is taken from 1up article.. :S
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=1&cId=3159837

It's supposed to be true.. Even tho blizzard never did ANOTHER reference to it.

[burkid]

well that says organic, so i guess that means infesting a MS is out of the question.

[Star-Crap]

well if u wanna counter a mother ship with zerg just use scourges. if it uses time bomb simply run away. The Time bomb stays in one place and if the mothership chase you it would have to leave the safty of the time bomb which in case scorge her ass.

[capthavic]

But it says organic. So even if it's real it can't infect the MS.

[ninerman13]

I agree with burkid and capthavic - I imagine that the Succubus would only be able to utilize its ability on units like the Marine/Zealot/Reaper/Hydralisk, etc. How would one Zerg unit infest an entire Mothership??

[burkid]

How would one Zerg unit infest an entire Mothership

^(adding on to ninerman's last sentence)...when a mothership is an entire city of protoss?

[JudicatorPrime]

Stupid name for a unit if the only female units are the medics...

[burkid]

i read somewhere that succubi are infested ghosts (like kerrigan), so its possible that they are female ghosts based off of the name.

[JudicatorPrime]

Well then Kerrigan isn't that special then :P

A Command Center is pretty much just like a MS, except without all the guns... I bet it has plent of nosepickers in it.

[Major Willy]

Suh-argeant? Do I puh-ress thissur buhtawn now?

I don't love my Command Centers. I just use 'em to make money.

[Ghost]

That succubus units bull defecation. Zerg will probably suffewr the most from the mothership.

[Major Willy]

I tip my hat to the Mothership using Planet Cracker that can catch the StimPacked Marines.

[Fenix]

Stupid name for a unit if the only female units are the medics...


A succubus is a female deamon that does dudes while they're a-sleepin'. The Incubus is the dude version.


Yeah, the Zerg are gonna suck so very badly against the MS. Drop a Planet Cracker right on a rush, POW!! Blood'n'guts everywhere.

[JudicatorPrime]

Yeah.. .thats what I said.. if a succubus is an infested unit and theres olny one female unit then wth?

[PowerkickasS]

is medic gonna byebye!?

[Fenix]

Yeah.. .thats what I said.. if a succubus is an infested unit and theres olny one female unit then wth?


Ugh, no. The Succubus isn't the infested unit, it's the unit that does the infesting lol

[JudicatorPrime]

Yeah.. .thats what I said.. if a succubus is an infested unit and theres olny one female unit then wth?


Ugh, no. The Succubus isn't the infested unit, it's the unit that does the infesting lol


Just know what I read, it says its a form of infested Terran with psionic abilities. Unless it starts out like that... even though, if the most common gender is male, why call it a Succubus?

[Fenix]

.....You raise an interesting point. After being infested, would it even have a gender?
I think it's called the Succubus cause it would primarily infect males, as that's what's common like you said, and it'd be creepy to call it the Incubus.

[burkid]

Just know what I read, it says its a form of infested Terran with psionic abilities. Unless it starts out like that... even though, if the most common gender is male, why call it a Succubus?


as i said, its an infested ghost. kerrigan was a female ghost. nova was a female ghost. why not make the infested ghost be female. that way it would fit the name. anyways, kerrigan infested raszagal, so that shows that infested ghosts can infest.
Also, just because its infested doesnt mean it cant infest, and that you have to infest it in game. Zerglings are infests dune runners, and you dont have to infest them, so why not be the same for terran ghosts?

and to the post above mine, kerrigan kept her gender.

[JudicatorPrime]

Well Incubi are creepy also, who says they can't be homosexual, thats probably where they get their kicks lol. Zerglings were assimilated into the Hive, they can be produced without infestation... they evolved into that..

Infested GENERALLY implies INFESTATION... thats all im getting at here. I wasnt saying there anret any female ghosts, I based that on my assumption that the unit had to be infested first, and can therefore infest others because it said "infested" unit. And since most of the units are male, I questioned that.

If it was a female ghost, that you could create from a larvae that would be completely stupid.. because no infestation took place, therefore its not infested at all. also making kerrigan less special...

is the unit even confirmed?

[Fenix]

as i said, its an infested ghost. kerrigan was a female ghost. nova was a female ghost. why not make the infested ghost be female. that way it would fit the name. anyways, kerrigan infested raszagal, so that shows that infested ghosts can infest.
Also, just because its infested doesnt mean it cant infest, and that you have to infest it in game. Zerglings are infests dune runners, and you dont have to infest them, so why not be the same for terran ghosts?

and to the post above mine, kerrigan kept her gender.


I think that's the most I've ever seen "infest" used.

Yeah, Kerrigan kept her gender, but she seems to be a special case, along with Stukov. Free will and all that. If you look at Infested Terrans with their elephant faces, well, that's why I wonder.

[burkid]

yes, that is the most we've seen for infest, but that was done by an infested female ghost. according to wiki, succubi are infested terrans with psionic capabilities. ghosts are terrans with psionic capabilities. therefore, they can have similar powers to kerrigan. and can be female to fit the name.

[JudicatorPrime]

Ghosts aren't the only ones with psionic abilites. No doubt most of people who have an ounce of psychic abilties are inducted into the "To Be Ghosts Club" but it's not specifically Ghosts, they're just trained to use them, and are augmented for that purpose.

I don't see it being "a form of Infested Terran with psionic abilities" if it's somehow to be an infested Ghost, which is done ingame. Unless there are random genders when you create Ghosts. If there is no process of infestation that why call it infested?

Pretty much if you have to infest a Ghost to make one - Does the Ghost then drop its ***** and become a female, or is it just a namesake.

If you don't have to infest a Ghost to make one - How does it appear on the battlefield, if its infested that means it doesn't just pop out of a larvae.

Maybe infest a building? Or it comes out of a Zerg building and was apparently captured beforehand.

[burkid]

theres a gauge for psionic level 1-10 (10 being the highest) i think the highest normal terrans are is 2-3, and all protoss are somewhere between 4-10, and ghosts i think have to have at least a 5 to become a ghost. (Kerrigan and Nova have each have a 10) so infested terran with psionic capabilities means ghost. otherwise the terrans you get in an infested command center wouldnt just blow themselves up, that would waste their psionic potential. a 2 doesnt mean psionic capabilities, it means you can think.

[DontHate]

sweet. that was interesting to know. Also, if scourge come back won't that mean it's mothership death time?

[MarineCorp]

When you doods are talking about succubus (female version) and the Incubus (male version) it kinda reminds me of Claymore :P

[burkid]

is medic gonna byebye!?

we aren't sure. they've been mentioned a few times, but in one of the Q & A's, im pretty sure karune said they were out for now.

[PancakeChef]

I love it how people just assume this is underpowered that is overpowered etc, etc, before the game is even in internal alpha.

I'm assuming you couldn't drop a planet cracker on a Zerg rush though, since the Mothership seems to be a later game, high tier unit and a Zerg rush of course is a very early game attack strategy. So how are they gonna wipe out a Zerg rush with a Mothership if they don't have one?

[PowerkickasS]

is medic gonna byebye!?

we aren't sure. they've been mentioned a few times, but in one of the Q & A's, im pretty sure karune said they were out for now.

thanks for answering ^.^ :powerup:

[burkid]

oh, of course. i was busy in the succubus discussion to answer earlier, so i figured might as well answer it when i was free.

one good turn deserves another :powerup:

[capthavic]

Just know what I read, it says its a form of infested Terran with psionic abilities. Unless it starts out like that... even though, if the most common gender is male, why call it a Succubus?


as i said, its an infested ghost. kerrigan was a female ghost. nova was a female ghost. why not make the infested ghost be female. that way it would fit the name. anyways, kerrigan infested raszagal, so that shows that infested ghosts can infest.
Also, just because its infested doesnt mean it cant infest, and that you have to infest it in game. Zerglings are infests dune runners, and you dont have to infest them, so why not be the same for terran ghosts?

and to the post above mine, kerrigan kept her gender.


Well that was a special cirumstance. The majority of people who are infested lose most of their intelligence and any powers they might have had. And raszagal was really just brainwashed not heavily mutated like kerrigan was.

[JBL]

A succubus is a female deamon that does dudes while they're a-sleepin'. The Incubus is the dude version.

This is very true and this makes pretty much 75% of the posts in this topic pointless.

Thanks for this precision Fenix, I was about to post something similar.

I've been noticing that many of your posts are filled with mature and needed information like these, this is appreciated.

[CapMan]

having that unit would be soooooo cool, it could be very effective vs ghosts nuking someone