View Full Version : The new siege tank
L0ck and L04d
08-04-2007, 06:06 PM
Ok, I know this sounds crazy but I havent seen any topics on what people think of the new siege, so please tell me if there is?
Now, the first thing that came to my mind when I saw that thing was: GAGAGAGAGA :o :o :o :o ! But when its in siege mode it looks... well like it fires some kind of disk shaped round or some thing, i'm shure blizzards got an awsome reason for doing this but i'm just not seing it.
AdmiralAckbar
08-04-2007, 06:41 PM
Im glad they kept the spreading treads, everyone was complaining about it and i figured theyd remove it. What are those yellow things above the tank (theyre also above the ghosts) are they command keys? If so how do command keys function, i cant find any info on them.
PancakeChef
08-04-2007, 07:47 PM
I love it and think its a big improvement from the previous design.
Blizzard has said nothing about those marks/symbols above the Terran units but they did say they WON'T be using a veterancy/exp system similar to CnC.
Indigent
08-04-2007, 07:53 PM
Lol, as said before on another forum, these things will not be ranks or anything. I like the new look of the siege tank. It looks less like toy tanks that are made of plastic and have a beter look of battle and everything. This sounds crazy to some people but I liked the seige tank beter in tank mode, in the gameplay video, it looked like they became buildings when they were in siege mode. Did this have the same apeal to anyone else? They didn't move or anything when the zealots or imortals got too close.
TerranTemplar
08-04-2007, 08:06 PM
Hmm, I hope the sounds have been updated, but still retain the familiar hiss...locking in place sound that the first seige tank when it fully deployed.
Yes, destruction on wheels is a pretty good fit by what the pics show.
It looks more like a badass turret than a tank, but the more badass the better :P
L0ck and L04d
08-05-2007, 06:23 PM
the tank looks so, so, so AWSSOME!!!!
and I think those yellow things on top are like skill levels that you get from killing enemys, it worked well in red alert 2 so why shouldint it work here?
burkid
08-05-2007, 06:49 PM
because that is C&C and
THIS
IS
STARCRAFT!!!!!!!!
*kicks guy into the pit*
ArchLimit
08-05-2007, 06:56 PM
Yea, I really hope there's not much of a ranking system going on. I also don't really understand why a siege tank would get ranks in the first place. I mean, a Soul Hunter, who's nature and fighting style is (or was) to absorb kills and get more powerful, so it kinda made sense for it to have it. But a Siege Tank?
Terran General: "Rooooaaar, I can feel the souls of the dead empowering the armor of my Tonka!"
...see, it wouldn't work.
MarineCorp
08-05-2007, 07:00 PM
The new Siege tank looks great, they improved it a lot from the siege tank before
JudicatorPrime
08-05-2007, 07:06 PM
The icons above the units are probably ranks... to show efficacy of a unit, this doesn't imply any power up whatsoever. In theory a probe can get ranks for returning the most or noticable amount of minerals. A tank can get ranks for.. sieging. It's probably just a more immersive way to tell you how many kills this unit has, each icon could mean like 25 or 50 kills and they stack.. once it hits a hundred it'll change and still stack the 25 icons... like roman numerals. That's all specualtion but you can't tell me it doesn't make sense. Notice the ones with the ranks are Ghosts (self explanatory) Tanks (also self explanatory) and the Marines, the ones CLOSEST to the frontline.
On topic, I love the new look, I love how the cannon splits open too look more badass in siege mode, and I love siege mode just as much. The new tank mode looks great too, a lot bigger and bulkier and less pan-cake-ish.
ArchLimit
08-05-2007, 07:09 PM
Maybe I misunderstood the idea of ranking. If it simply means overall kill rate status or what not, that'd be just fine. I guess what I was saying it'd be silly to have a tank gain power by killing (if that ranking meant). My bad.
JudicatorPrime
08-05-2007, 07:12 PM
Well we don't know yet, and that'd be pretty stupid if they did... but I figure it's just something nice to show, and it'll give us incentive to keep those units alive... I sure as hell did it a lot in C&C, not because they were more powerful, because they could still get run over and killed... but because its like, "Z0mg R4Nkz, k3ept d3m lyve!"
PancakeChef
08-05-2007, 07:19 PM
and less pan-cake-ish.
Have something against pancakes there Judicator? :P
Anyway, I think its a good bet they are not ranks because Blizzard said they wont be using a system like that and they havn't even commented on them yet, so that leaves them open to being anything. I just wish people would stop playing the assumption game as much as they do and look more at the facts then like "omg it looks like ranks from CnC, so it must be true!"
ShasOkais
08-05-2007, 07:37 PM
Wait, you mentioned running over units with vehicles. Would that be possible in SC2- including building explosion damaging and lifted buildings falling on both friend and foe. Cuz I'm sure Blizzard has the engine, but is it or is it not a good idea =\
burkid
08-05-2007, 07:43 PM
keep it in C&C, out of starcraft.
Star-Crap
08-05-2007, 08:53 PM
some post a before and after pic please so i can see the real differance
i2new@aol.com
08-05-2007, 08:55 PM
I still dont like the bottem of the tank. it still looks kinda strange.
Fenix
08-05-2007, 08:56 PM
Oh, I like it. Muy bien. The old ones were horrid looking. These ones now look like Deth on Wheelz. Yes, Deth. They rock that hard
capthavic
08-05-2007, 10:54 PM
But when its in siege mode it looks... well like it fires some kind of disk shaped round or some thing, i'm shure blizzards got an awsome reason for doing this but i'm just not seing it.
I vaugely remember seeing in an old SC:Ghost vid a siege tank firing what looked like a disk shaped round. Kinda like the disk gun in Tribes but in an arc.
zeratul11
08-05-2007, 11:20 PM
this new tank looks better than the original. i like the tank mode look better than the siege mode. if only we can always use the tank mode in battle.
there are other models or artworks of tanks in blizzcon too. i notice there are tanks that looks more futuristic and dont have tracks but floats like that of starwars. i wonder why they choose this model? maybe they always thought of the terrans as rusty and heavy armored looking.
but anyway those other tanks still looks good. ^^
DontHate
08-05-2007, 11:51 PM
i never seen the barrel up close in siege mode, so the disk launcher barrel is odd. if the shot accually shoots out of the tank and is a disk, i'd be mad. It's not terran at all.
GrahamTastic
08-06-2007, 12:40 AM
because that is C&C and
THIS
IS
STARCRAFT!!!!!!!!
*kicks guy into the pit*
Lol.
Yeah, a ranking system was what came to mind when I first saw those markie-marks, but I think that it tells you what control group the unit is in. Of course, why don't they just use little numbers so you don't get confused as to how many marks there are?
And yes, I like the new Siege Tanks. I'm glad that they kept the treads, and the look very powerful even when they are not in Siege Mode. Entaro Siege Tanks!
Warsaw
08-06-2007, 01:12 AM
wait so, thats the new version of the seige tank? I looks pretty much like the old one as far as i can tell. whats so different about it and what was wrong with the first SC2 seige tank design? I thought it looked kinda of cute ::)
DontHate
08-06-2007, 01:17 AM
wait so, thats the new version of the seige tank? I looks pretty much like the old one as far as i can tell. whats so different about it and what was wrong with the first SC2 seige tank design? I thought it looked kinda of cute ::)
it looked like it was wearing lipstick, and it was having a very short/chubby feeling to it, for me at least. the new tank is longer in normal mode, and skinnier. The siege mode has a not so fat barrel and is disk shaped, which isnt' really better.
Indigent
08-06-2007, 03:17 AM
some post a before and after pic please so i can see the real differance
Your before and after. :)
L0ck and L04d
08-06-2007, 03:29 AM
you've got tank mode on top and siege mode on botom, left to right.
in other words: MINES BETTER! ;D
Indigent
08-06-2007, 03:40 AM
Grrr... You challenging me...? (Retoricle please dp not challenge me! I'm weak! *Kisses your feet*)
L0ck and L04d
08-06-2007, 03:41 AM
naaaa, its fine, ive been using paint for over a year now so it isint realy fair.
Indigent
08-06-2007, 03:42 AM
I said it was retoricle...
L0ck and L04d
08-06-2007, 03:44 AM
I was right...
Indigent
08-06-2007, 03:52 AM
Dot dot dot..
Star-Crap
08-06-2007, 03:55 AM
hmm i like lock and load's post better but i like Indegent's new tank pic
even steven
Indigent
08-06-2007, 03:56 AM
So which is beter...? (Will send you send you minerals if you say mine) :)
L0ck and L04d
08-06-2007, 03:59 AM
realy now?
(I only need 600 more for a ghost...I bought a brass mug 4 weeks ago, te he he)
TheOneInPower
08-06-2007, 04:02 AM
Great line up Lock and Load.
The first SC2 seige mode looks like that Octoroc water creature in the Zelda video games!
As for the new siege tank, I love it. The normal tank mode is so fearsome. Even seige mode is amazing(especially in comparison to the SC2 first version's seige mode..). The treads coming out for stability is a nice touch, too. I think just another small touch that would be fairly neat would be if the stablizing arms that came out took one extra movement and hydrolicly jammed their claws into the ground. Like the 3 claws on the arms of SC1's tank(except they didn't dig, they just laid there).
Indigent
08-06-2007, 04:05 AM
Were you talking about my past post? Because I was just kidding. I like talking to you you are funny. Putting a post of a siege tank next to mine... You're going down... Seriously? Wow ghosts are cool!! Love them.
What do pets do besides give you minerals (How?). And for display.
L0ck and L04d
08-06-2007, 04:10 AM
well ummm...pets are a sing of respect, show that youre a true furum'er or whatever and send out a message that says: I STILL LIVE WITH MY MOM AND I'M PROUD OF IT!
(just kidding)
Indigent
08-06-2007, 04:16 AM
I umm.. Just got a... strange sensation to buy a pet...
*Runs to store and buys all pets*
I love you Mommy :) I will never move out!
Star-Crap
08-06-2007, 07:32 PM
So which is beter...? (Will send you send you minerals if you say mine) :)
INDIGENT FTW!!!!
Indigent
08-06-2007, 07:51 PM
Ty but I was just kidding. But since you said mine already how much do you think you deserve. Keep in mind I probually have the same minerals or less considering you have more posts then me only by 6.
Nikzad
08-06-2007, 10:38 PM
the disc could be the ammo for a rail gun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_gun
just a quick explanation, it uses magnetic currents that move down the two rails on either side to pull a projectile between them down the "barrel"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Railgun-1.svg/340px-Railgun-1.svg.png
burkid
08-06-2007, 11:08 PM
that sounds fesible. but cobras have railguns. that shoot red lasers lol.
L0ck and L04d
08-07-2007, 01:18 AM
ya well this is science fiction, a magical land were multi-moleculaire pulse beams and quantum warp maxtrix generator run free.
Star-Crap
08-07-2007, 01:28 AM
tease
JudicatorPrime
08-07-2007, 01:49 AM
So it's settled then, the new Siege Tank is awesome. It's the Sean Conory of all Siege Tanks. The Cobra's attack should be blue if anything... But Terrans=Red lasers so...
TerranTemplar
08-07-2007, 02:19 AM
Yea, these arent the Rebel Alliance ><
As for the ranks, i could definitely see those in SC2. I was always a bit confused on how some terran units were different ranks like sergeant, private, and the such but it never changed. Even if i kept them alive all game!
As for the disc shaped siege tank, how would that kill the Terran look? You only heard the shots and saw the impact from the shots int he first one, and disc's make a bit more sense then regular balls. With discs you can spread the impact out more as with a ball has a deeper, but more narrow field. Now when you are sieging an area/thing/building, don't you want to spread the damage out as far as possible?
Eh, my reasons for disc shape ^^
And yes, 2nd one is much better, tho in tank mode it looks chubby :P
ShasOkais
08-14-2007, 07:32 AM
Atleast these guys get headlights ^^
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