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Well it looks like it's already time for another StarCraft 2 beta patch. This time it looks like Terran has gotten a huge buff and the Protoss have taken another large hit. The Protoss Mothership has been significantly reduced in terms of HP and strength. Its cost in build time and food allocation has also been raised. This is good news for anyone who has been Mothership rushed (myself included). That thing was just impossible to kill and completely destroyed anything in its path. And then it promptly recalled itself home. Now it's significantly weaker and doesn't have that option for a cheap escape.


In addition the Zerg Corruptor received a +2 damage boost against massive units which should make this unit even better against Battlecruisers, Colossus, and Motherships (woohoo!). The Protoss Chronos also saw a reduction in its duration and most of the useful Terran buildings have had their build time reduced fairly significantly.
Perhaps even important, the Terran Banshee now comes with the cloak ability. This will make the unit far more deadly out of the gate and more achievable.



Overall I think these changes are farsighted and will benefit the game as a whole. I think Terran, if anything, may have just become the most powerful of the three races short of very late game. But this should help overcome the ridiculous cheap-ness of the Protoss late-game Mothership + Carrier + Warp Ray + Stalker combination.
Here's the full changelist:

StarCraft II Beta - Patch 2 (version 0.4.0.14133)

Balance Changes
  • Terran
    • Banshee
      • Cloak: This ability no longer requires Fusion Core to research.
    • Barracks
      • The build time for this building has decreased from 65 to 60.
    • Factory
      • The build time for this building has decreased from 65 to 60.
    • Reactor
      • The build time for this building has decreased from 40 to 25.
    • Reaper
      • The build time for this unit has increased from 30 to 40.
      • Nitro Boost: The build time for this upgrade has increased from 90 to 100.
    • Starport
      • The build time for this building has decreased from 55 to 50.
    • Tech Lab
      • The build time for this building has decreased from 30 to 25.
  • Protoss
    • Mothership
      • The build time for this unit has increased from 120 to 160.
      • The food cost of this unit has increased from 6 to 8.
      • The number of shots fired by this unit has decreased from 8 to 6.
      • The shield of this unit has decreased from 400 to 350.
      • The health of this unit has decreased from 400 to 350.
      • The acceleration of this unit has decreased from 1.3125 to 0.3125.
      • The deceleration of this unit has increased from 0 to 1.
    • Nexus
      • Chrono Boost: The duration of this ability has decreased from 30 to 20.
  • Zerg
    • Corruptor
      • The damage done by this unit has increased from 12 (+8 massive) to 12 (+10 massive).
Source: Battle.net
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Can't you just research the cloak ability sooner, not get it out of the gate?

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Terrans are gonna be rushing like it's their job with the reactor time building decrease.

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I want a beta account... I wish there was some way
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I just want the Zerg to be able to counter Marines + Marauders + Medivacs.
It is almost impossible. If I can manage to get Brood Lords + Corruptors, I can beat them, but the MMM combo comes way earlier than I can get those beasts. Other than that, the slightest chance is with A LOT of micro, Using Infestors to Mind Control the Medivacs, Fungal Growth on the infantry, careful flanking with banelings, etc.. Even with all this, Stimpacked Marines and Marauders usually kill everything before I can touch them. As a Zerg player, that is very frustrating to me.
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Old 02-28-2010, 02:59 AM
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:P Protoss just getting nerfed and nerfed. Mothership is becoming crap now.. wheres all the crazy cool **** like black holes and lazer beams tearing up the terrain that we saw months ago? it is suppose to cost a crap load of resources but tilt the win in your favor, cause if they can afford to build a mothership (where these resources could be spent in so many other ways) then at least have it be one of those "dude that thing is so terribly strong" without being REALLY op obviously (as in 1 mothership = win for u) idk it would be so much cooler :P. Terran does seem really strong atm..how does Blizz not see this.
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:47 AM
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Terran does seem really strong atm..how does Blizz not see this.
I think blizzard loves terran
All the good stuff and ideas, goes to terran.
All nerf and bad ideas, to zerg and protoss.

Mothership now is an Arbiter
Infestor abilities are trash.
All the good protoss and zerg concept ideas was remove it.

I am happy that terran looks great, but what about the other races?
Now Recall ability it will bring balance problems.
Becouse protoss have: Colosos, Stalker, Warp Prysm, Warp Gates, Recall.

With all that, Stationary defences are useless.

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Old 02-28-2010, 06:12 AM
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^^ i htought you can move around the photon cannons?

i would know if i got a beta

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@ Angel,

Are you kidding? All the cool mechanics went to Protoss. Warp-In, Time Bomb (removed), etc. The Protoss are the favored children.

P was the strongest race til this last patch. Now I think it might be T. Z definitely needs a buff.

But don't EVER think T is the favored child lol.
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Overall I think these changes are farsighted and will benefit the game as a whole. I think Terran, if anything, may have just become the most powerful of the three races short of very late game. But this should help overcome the ridiculous cheap-ness of the Protoss late-game Mothership + Carrier + Warp Ray + Stalker combination.
This is part of the main article of the front page. I think it's best to just state the news/facts of the front page and keep all opinion in the forum. And yes what I quoted is opinion cause it starts with "overall I think". And what you think is an opinion. I agree with your opinion. But I feel it's not the right place for such a discussion.

And the title of the front page part is Latest Starcraft News and not Starcraft opinions and discussion.
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